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Alternate Fuel for Diesel and Gasoline Engines - 100% off the Bowser

Started by ElectricGoose, May 09, 2011, 08:42:38 PM

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ramset

Some thing to look at
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7040-how-turn-plastic-waste-into-diesel-fuel-cheaply.html
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In the Rough the concept couldn't be simpler ,just seems to take Heat?

@Serge
Yes I will be Building a gasifier,It seems like I could go over to my stove and build one from the wifes "pot" inventory?
However .................
Lets do it right!!
Loop it!!

Chet
PS
And with all these great ideas on how to get the most out of the Fuel?
we'll put these to work during proccessing and once again during final application!
This is going to be a sweet deal
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

evolvingape

Hello Everyone,

I was planning to do a write-up this morning consisting of a review of where we are with these concepts, when I woke up I realised I could do much better...

You all want an environmentally friendly electric vehicle right ?

Well then... here you go :)

I have put up two new diagrams of the Gasifier Energy Conversion Valve covering both priming and ignition cycles.

The valve is opened and closed via a voice coil timed from the shaft.

The Ignition Spark is achieved via a Buzz Coil unit also timed from the shaft.

The Non Return Valve prevents flashback through the atomiser.

The Energy Conversion Valve converts the static high pressure from detonating expanding gasses to fluid velocity and directs it into the turbine.

I would suggest that you go with the Winglet Boundary Layer Turbine of Ken Riely design as a first prototype turbine, as this design is tried and tested and there is an excellent build resource available to you:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/gmpr/ptbc15.htm

The basic concept is that plastic is gasified and combined with water before being atomised and injected under pressure into the ECV.

The ECV then detonates the fuel and sends high velocity fluid into the turbine disc stack causing a torque moment.

The turbine can also be enhanced by tapping the output rotary moment to run a pump to create water pressure that will be pulsed into the turbine via a K valve, increasing the mass flow rate of the working fluid and also cooling the turbine.

The idea is to run the turbine at a constant speed to turn a permanent magnet alternator. The electricity generated will determine the size of electric motor you can run.

A battery bank is used to buffer the electricity produced via the PMA and a charge controller prevents overcharge of the battery bank.

All of this, along with the water tanks can be mounted on one of these buggy's:

http://www.blitzworld.co.uk/joyrider-sport-rolling-chassis-kit-2010-i861.html

Enjoy :)

RM :)


evolvingape

Hi Everyone,

Just an additional thought to the Gasifier ECV post previously...

Timing off the shaft for valve opening and closure, and also ignition from the Buzz Coil, may be unnecessary. The pressure inside the chamber will equalize in a set time variable by the feed pressure, you simply need to fire the charge when the chamber is primed. This simplifies things a lot, no need for timing wheels and reduction gear boxes. A turbine will accept the energy at any point in it's phase rotation.

Also the comments on HHO being a waste of time only really apply to ICE's. There are other options to pursue for ICE's that are much more usefull such as this thread is discussing.

There are other options for HHO as my work clearly shows. HHO is also a prime mover fuel that can be generated by sunlight and so may become extremely important in the future for rehydration of our deserts. So I would encourage anyone interested in HHO to continue the research, but perhaps consider an alternate end use for it, and not plan on running an ICE directly off 100% HHO.

RM :)

sergenet

@evolvingape, my thoughts exactly concerning HHO. Thank you.

Serge

ElectricGoose

Dont forget to look into the Plasmatron fuel Catalyser that was buried after MIT conducted all that work on it.

VERY simple device and basically an electric version of the Geet unit.  It bolts to the front of your carburettor.  This is how it works -

TWO intakes
1)  AIR with high voltage plasma that the air passes through
2)  FUEL adjacent but insulated from the HV plasma.

The two streams mix prior to being sucked into the carb and you get an efficient catalysing of the hydrogen to fuel.  Results showed a 22 - 28% fuel economy increase and thats with NO water added.

Notice the common vector yet?