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[TheOne]

What is the exact process to convert rubber/plastic into gasoline instead of diesel. Its seam this is mostly the same between the 2 but they are something I miss related to what kind of gas you can do and how to do it the way I want to.

[ElectricGoose]

@Mr.Goose
Plasmatron??

Chet

Yes Plasmatron Chet....not the Sony one.

[ElectricGoose]

What is the exact process to convert rubber/plastic into gasoline instead of diesel. Its seam this is mostly the same between the 2 but they are something I miss related to what kind of gas you can do and how to do it the way I want to.

All the pertinent KEY information has been posted.  Go back and have a read of all the links while the thread is still young.  It won't take you long.

In answer to your question - If you want to run a Gasoline engine on waste plastic or any biomass (that is carbon based), STOP thinking old technology of liquid fuels wastefully sprayed into the engine.... research 'fuel reforming' (cracking) and also steam reforming.

THEN think how you can simply deliver that volatile gas on demand into a standard ICE.   

Knowledge is power.  With it you can build anything.

[TheOne]

On demand system is not the way to go for me. why?

Usually when I use my car, its for small trip that take around 20 min, if the process of gasifiing take 5/15 min to start you lose time. And you need to carry the reactor with suffisent plastic/rubber

While at home you can make your device, let the device do the work while you are doing other thing, just need to get the fuel generated and put in the car when you need it, you are creating your own gas station.

I will buy some big container this week and start on similar to the one made on the other forum, I have space, big garage, so its not a problem for me to use space for that.

[evolvingape]

Hello Everyone,

I am going to give you an update on where I am with my thought processes and with my direction.

If your direction is ICE engines then I am not really the man to speak to, I have never been particularly interested in them and have not invested much time into them. The reason for this is that so many other people are pursuing this route that I figured my time would be better spent elsewhere.

The information that I have posted related to gasification devices for ICE's was not designed by me for that purpose. When Mr Goose generously shared with me his knowledge of gasification technology I realised I already had the hardware you all required worked out, I just had to adapt it for a new purpose. This I have now done and you have both cheap off the shelf adaptations and custom adaptations using HELIS technology to play with.

Now, my direction is turbines, I am a turbine man through and through. I know how good they are and I want to show YOU how good they are. Everything you have read about HHO PCT's and the RotoMax and the I0toMax has come about because I needed an on demand fuel to power a turbine for an electric car. This is where I was going all along with the development of these technologies. I hinted at the electric car option but I was waiting for my work to be proven before I told you about it.

The problem I had with HHO was the old problem of overunity or not. I had to replace that energy before I got anything out to power the car, which is why I spent so many years on developing the open system theory. There's one headache I am glad is over!

When I became aware of the possibility of gasification of waste plastics and the potential for fuel it presented it took a few days for it all to sink in. Once I had grasped the concept I started to see what I could do with it. This was actually a very simple process for me, because I realised that all of the work I did with HHO could be oh so simply adapted to plastic fuel.

The difference is that the MAJOR processing has already been done and the cost has been paid, the MINOR processing can be done by me, or you, and is as simple as lighting a fire.

The Gasifier Energy Conversion Valve is incredibly important. Nearly all of you will instantly recognise the components and will realise that it is going to work. The one question mark with it for me is will the heat destroy the permanent magnetic field of the Neodymium Magnet ? It might, if it goes over 350 C and your using a 350 C magnet but I don't care about that... you know why ?

The only reason I designed it with a voice coil actuator is because it is incredibly easy to adapt to the design, an actual production model will probably use a solenoid actuator instead. So it's not a problem. Everything else about the valve works to standard principles that are known to be fact, there is no real theoretical R&D to do with it. It is going to work.

What this means is that I have a reliable prime mover for my turbine, the one thing I could not be sure about until the Linear Firing Valve is proven or not. I also do not have to worry about overunity or not, the fuel is paid for and I am getting it for free, and there is a hell of a lot of it.

This is WHY I AM SO EXCITED!

The one remaining question we have is will we be able to detonate the atomised water / plastic gas mix reliably ?

I don't know yet, and neither do you until you have built a GECV and tested it.

However what I do know is that we can harvest sunlight and turn that into HHO. HHO is a primary explosive and is very easy to detonate, hence all the frequent warnings to be extremely careful!

The reason I gave you the design for the Water / Oil / HHO Injector Mk3 is because you can add a primary explosive to the mix just before mixing and injection to the chamber. Combine this with a Multi Spark Buzz Coil and you have a reliable ignition, which will then detonate the water / oil mix and give us our working fluid.

We already have the ideal ship to mount all this technology on. Cargo ships that carry Intermodal Containers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_Container

Adapt the ship to distil seawater and use that pure water as part of our working fluid, so as to prevent pumping salt and other impurities through our turbines. Equip the ship with many turbine generators that provide all the power we need to power the process the system needs to perform.

Equip the ship with huge melting pots that first process the plastic at 100 C, this will mean that all of the low melt plastics will turn to liquid and the high melt plastics will remain solid. This low melt  liquid is then tapped off from the bottom of the still and shaped into small pellets which are then allowed to cool and stored in the ISO containers.

The high melt plastics that remain are used to provide the fuel for the entire process and power the ship.

When the ISO containers are full the ship raises it's anker and sails off to a cargo port to unload and deliver the PRODUCT. The low melt plastic pellets that are used to fuel the electric cars run by the same technology. A new ship replaces it and the process continues uninterrupted.

Have a read of these three links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Garbage_Patch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_Garbage_Patch

Important points to note:

As the plastic flotsam photodegrades into smaller and smaller pieces, it concentrates in the upper water column. As it disintegrates, the plastic ultimately becomes small enough to be ingested by aquatic organisms which reside near the ocean's surface. Plastic waste thus enters the food chain through its concentration in the neuston. Some plastics decompose within a year of entering the water, leaching potentially toxic chemicals such as bisphenol A, PCBs and derivatives of polystyrene.

Density of plastics through water column

Charles Moore has estimated the mass of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch at 100 million tons.

So, there is a lot of it, and it is nearly all near the surface. This means we can collect it relatively easily! Great news!!

So who is going to help me get this done ?

RM