Overbalancing wheel

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Low-Q: forgot to ask, how much static weight it would take to get the same result in both cases?

In order to preserve the same kinetic energy at the impact, the weight must also be equal in both cases. Even if the hammer head goes via the moon and back + 10 feet lower, will in total provide the very same extra kinetic energy at the impact. However all that energy you apply to the hammer head to make it to the moon, will ofcourse make a difference at the impact too. The point is that there is added 10feet x 4lb of kinetic energy at the impact.

Vidar

[Dr]

Low-Q: forget about going to the moon and back, lets stick to problem at hand, a4lb. weight falling straight down 10 ft. impacts alead ball of .4834 dia. how much will it flatten it? The same 4lb. weight on the end of a 5 ft. lever, but now forced to take a longer path, in a half circle, and again impacts the same dia. lead ball. What is the difference in the impacts???

[Low-Q]

Low-Q: forget about going to the moon and back, lets stick to problem at hand, a4lb. weight falling straight down 10 ft. impacts alead ball of .4834 dia. how much will it flatten it? The same 4lb. weight on the end of a 5 ft. lever, but now forced to take a longer path, in a half circle, and again impacts the same dia. lead ball. What is the difference in the impacts???

OK. I do not have a 4lb hammer head, nor a 0.4834 diametet lead ball. I cannot test this. I am not able to measure the deformation.
The answer to your question in general. The lead ball will flatten equally in both cases. How much, I do not know. If it flattens 0.20930528604 inches in the first experiment, it will flatten 0.20930528604 inches with the lever experiment.
Do you know why? Well, the 4lb hammer head have the same speed and same kinetic energy at both impacts.

Hope this answer will help you out.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

The trouble some people put themselves (and others,)
through, (even, providing formulae), to justify their own
personal beliefs ----- beggers belief!  You can have a
personal belief, right, or wrong, about any subject you
like, but it becomes wrong to FOIST your beliefs on to
someone, as if it were a'law'of physics ------ because it
hasn't been done -- yet-- doesn't mean it CAN'T BE
DONE.

BILL.

P.S.  It was 'proven', at one time, that a bee can't fly!

It was never proven. It was an uncomplete theory. A proof need to be confirmd in practice. If a bee can fly in practice, that is the proof we need. The same applies to gravity wheel. Both theories and practical experiments points strongly in the direction of a non working wheel. The theory of a non working gravity wheel is not enough, but we have practical experiments in numbers that proves it doesnt work.
We can still believe that a bee cannot fly, but I honestly think that a bee wouldn't care about what we believe, or what our theories should say. Gravity doesn't care either of what we think it is capable of.

Vidar

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  Vidar,
I think people like you miss it. Why not go ask someone why climb a mountain ? It's been done before, nothing new there. But still they do it.
But then, even you are in this forum. Maybe you are hoping it is possible ?

People wants to learn. Experience things. Nothing wrong about that. People do things and fail, learn from it, and move on. When people do not understand why a gravity wheel doesn't work, and any explanation does not help. Hundred thousands of experiments fails to work. Still some people want to try again; Yes, I wonder why I am here at all.

Vidar