Muller Dynamo for experimentalists

[LtBolo]

Incidentally, if magnetic viscosity manifests more as 'magnetic inductance'...a time constant to establishing the field...but not as a propagation delay, then the theory doesn't work. It is critical that the energy be there, simply slowed down. That is probably the case. Sorry for the diversion.

[plengo]

I like the idea of Magnetic viscosity simply because I SEE that everywhere in nature. Why not at that level?

Fausto.

[gauschor]

Uhm don't know where to post since we have 3 topics now . I'm a bit late and it might have already be mentioned, but has anyone checked the amount of power released from a coil with:

a) the magnets on the backside of the coil in repusion mode
b) the magnets on the backside of the coil in attraction mode

I made a small test by moving a magnet past the coil. You can feel by hand that in repulsion mode it is much easier to move it past the core as was already said in the original thread. Isn't maybe possible to just build a generator with lots of coils or so and maybe multiple "layers" (e.g. coils-rotor-coils-|-coils-rotor-coils-|- etc.) and that it will just put out overunity then since it wouldn't need so much power to pass by the magnets and therefore less power to rotate the axis? Maybe then even less RPMs are needed.

Of course that might only be my cheap thinking

[plengo]

I like this guy explanation of the Muller dynamics.

Fausto.

Originally Posted by elias 
Hello

I am very happy to see many people are getting on to this.
Good luck to all of the builders. The Lenz drag is not like it seems at all.

Thanks lidmotor for your recent video, it clearly shows that there is something
to this system, that we do not see when we think conventionally.

I am looking forward to see more results. It would be really good if we could
reach a place to lay out a complete blueprint about the Muller machine so that
any one can follow and build it. I am out of budget at the moment for this.

Also as I was reaching for very high speeds (more than 6000RPM) it was quite
dangerous, and plexiglass doesn't have the necessary strength to withstand
that type of pressure, so I highly recommend against using plexiglass.

The pulsing in the Muller design allows the other coils to collect, when one of
them is firing at the moment. That makes a stepwise increase in speed right at
that moment, and helps decrease the Lenz effect. Also because all of the coils
are out of phase with eachother, when one is generating a maximum voltage
the others are generating less than that, thus it makes the machine work
much uniformly. Namely there will be 15 different phases in a 15 coil machine.

Because there is no magnetic cogging in this system, when the Lenz repulsion
kicks in, it causes minimal drag, because it cannot overcome the strong
attraction that keeps the system, with cog. So the system doesn't
see the momentary Lenz repulsive drag because of that. Note that there is no
attractive drag in this system. At the attractive phase, the generator works
as a motor, and pushes the magnet away. Another major factor is the speed
of operation, as the speed is higher, the less drag will be noticed, by the
rotor. All of this when add up makes this motor-generator, do what it does.
This system must be seen as a whole.

<Attraction of unlike poles in magnetic fields is much more powerful than repulsion of like poles>

I am going to demonstrate the statement above, with a simple device I had built quite time ago.

Elias

[plengo]

Uhm don't know where to post since we have 3 topics now . I'm a bit late and it might have already be mentioned, but has anyone checked the amount of power released from a coil with:

a) the magnets on the backside of the coil in repusion mode
b) the magnets on the backside of the coil in attraction mode

I made a small test by moving a magnet past the coil. You can feel by hand that in repulsion mode it is much easier to move it past the core as was already said in the original thread. Isn't maybe possible to just build a generator with lots of coils or so and maybe multiple "layers" (e.g. coils-rotor-coils-|-coils-rotor-coils-|- etc.) and that it will just put out overunity then since it wouldn't need so much power to pass by the magnets and therefore less power to rotate the axis? Maybe then even less RPMs are needed.

Of course that might only be my cheap thinking

My first thought would be yes, BUT, you have to think also the dynamics of Lenz's Law when we extract energy out of the coil. Many on the other thread have proposed the removal of the trigger or driving coils and only have generator coils while the rotor is rotated by an external motor.

All that is good in theory only practice will prove it. Soooo, let's build and see.

Fausto.