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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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neptune

More info on Tesla homopolar.
www.andrijar.com/teslahom/index.html
This is not a link and you will need to type it.
    Another area of research is the Forbes Dynamo, invented by George Forbes in Scotland.Apparently, it was commercially available around the year 1900. One of its applications was at power stations, in the days of DC mains. That means that it was probably capable of at least 100 volts , because distribution costs are inversely proportional to voltage, and you can not use transformers on DC. More conventional dynamos were available at that time. So why choose the Forbes? Because it was cheaper to make? Or because its reduced or absent back drag gave it a greater output for a given input? A bigger bang for your buck. Info is scarce, more questions than answers...

Magluvin

While messing around with the laminate strips, I came up with a better way of going about this. With the strips, the fields were not as controled as I would like, at least for what i have. I did a series of vids on this with cores and mags.

So I came up with an E core design that is much easier and the one I have for this controls the mag field much better. I have a few sizes smaller also. Hopefully Baby Gliders. ;]

In the pics, one shows a fig 8 looking thing. That is my simulated view of the magnets field loops, just on the left side. Both mags are same pole in. Here we will say N.
This config should envelop the coil with mostly N polarity field that crosses through the coil to the center E post, which is S polarized through the outer core legs from the S pole of the mags.

My theory is that if indeed this config does simulate the coil as always having mostly N field directed through from the outer side of the coil to the inside S. then we are emulating the disk between the ring mags. So we have the same sitting result as an advanced Faraday Dyno.

So again, if the paradox is true, and the ring mags being attached to the copper(or other) disk and when they are spun as one, that current is still generated, then what is it that the disk IS (aether, etc.) going through that causes the current to be generated? ;]

Well, what ever THAT is, the sugar glider, um no,  super slider, emm, nuh uh, Oh yea, the Polar Glider, should produce those currents also, moving in a straight line and not just a circle. Like imagine just a small piece of the Faraday Dyno pie and attaching it to a spinning wheel. It should generate voltage. And voltage should increase with more series conductors in the field of operation, like in the PG. ;] Should.

Heck, come to think of it, replace the disks and ring mags with just layers of copper strips between slightly larger area thin bar mags and stack them. The more I think about it, the more configurations I come up with.  Say a 1in by 6in strip of copper with mags 1.25in by 6.25in. so the copper plate is completely enveloped in the crossing field. Attach it to a wheel, from center to the circumference length wise and when the wheel spins, we should see current from the inner dia to the outer, like Faraday.

So the PG should work like a piece of pie.  ;)


Now, if it does generate current(Faraday, PG) and has no drag, this is a good thing.
If it does have drag, this is a good thing also, for different reasons...

If it has drag, what are we dragging against?  And if we can drag against it, maybe we can use it also to pull or push, or even lift by using the device backwards and applying current to the coil, and be able to propel through the, well, you know.  ;)

Mags



Magluvin

Again, in this position in the pics, up and/or down would be the direction of movement to generate current in the coil.

Mags

Jules Tresor

Hello Dr Steven Jones,
I am a layman with no material to experiment, but in the past I did a bit.
More important IMHO I have spent thousands of hours reading these OU forums and watched hundreds of video, and made hundreds of webpages about these OU devices. That's for my introduction.

I know Professors like their "students" to find by themselves instead of giving them the solutions in hands.
I think you are doing the same, see below why.

I would rather give a small finished circuit, and find someone to manufacture it in small quantities, and send the device all over the world to researchers, NGOs, Universities, etc... And sell these basic OU circuit through internet to collect funds to develop bigger ones and to finance a large communication campaign. But that's just my experience that gives me such opinion.

So, coming to the OU device, I watched carefully your video from Sterling Allan interview Physicist Steven E. Jones shows 8x overunity circuit and measurements (1 of 2) - YouTube
At one point you mention your test with a Pin of 4 mW and a Pout of 920mW.
That's 230 more out than in ...
By the way I don't understand why Sterling nor anyone else ever mentioned this x230, but instead talked about x8 and x20 ???

But we don't need x230 to prove OU, or ambient energy harnessing ...

With your very simple circuit (a Joule Ringer as LaserSaber calls it), at 4mW Pin, is it possible to light 1 or a few LEDs on the output side ?

If you can light 1 white LED at full brightness, factory rated at 3V 15mA, you would get 45mW output. That's just about x11 Efficiency. Not much compared to some of your results.

If this is possible, could you just put this LED in front of a tiny solar cell, even a low efficient one, let say a 10% efficient one.

Then you could just connect this solar cell back to the battery, and disconnect the battery, having an Pin superior to what you need.
10% of 45mW is 4.5mW, while your circuit uses only 4mW.
Of course if the solar cell is 15% efficient, then you'll get even more Pin.

This self lighting/powering circuit would be better proof of OU than any measurement, isn't it ?

Options :
1- If you can't light LEDs with the secondary, you could just replace the variable resistor on the secondary with an incandescent bulb, and collect electricity the same way with the solar cell.

2- May be the battery is important for this circuit, and it couldn't run from the solar cell only ... then you could try to replace this battery with a capacitor.

3- If you can't do without cap or battery, the a voltage reading after many days of working would prove the OU of your circuit.

Did you do that already but want "us" to find it out ?
The money from your beloved father could be used to manufacture samples of this self-powering-light, to send to Universities, NGOs, governments, ...

The cost of your circuit being so small, we could build dozens of them with only 1,000 USD.

By the way I would be glad to contribute financially too, to the production and spreading of your OU circuit.
I could be of help to manufacture and distribute them in poor countries, and to sell them through internet to customers from developed countries.

Working that way we could open the eyes of thousands people in just a few months.

Why looking for big power generators first, while we can start with a small proof of OU concept. We shall do according to our small means.

Sincerely,
Jules

Magluvin

Here is a pic of the first one I put together in pretty short order. No sweat. ;]

Will try it tomorrow on my bike at the shop. I gotta make a counter weight also to balance the wheel.  Im just going to put 2 red leds across the coil leads, each biased the opposite of the other. If one lights at all, then it works. If not, I will try more windings of thinner wire or back to the drawing board.  ;D

Will try several methods of load and some variations to see if we get anything from it.

Mags