PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[hyiq]

Hi All,

Just an fyi, Picture is attached. LED Test shows less power on the output.

Considering there is 1.5 Ohms inbetween the Primary LED and the Test secondary LED this test is not the best test.

All the best

  Chris

[JouleSeeker]

Great!  thanks, Xee2.  Hope you don't mind my showing it to people...?

Keep up the good work, Chris.  When measuring Pout, also try looking at the power dumped on the resistor Ro, with the LED replaced by a diode (1n4148) I used, in the same direction.

Back to the evaluation of Pin using a capacitor in lieu of the battery:

We need a capacitor that will drain slowly, but not leak significantly when disconnected --  measuring over a smaller V drop on the cap.  And compare THAT Power result with the DMM measurement!  (I asked this of Itsu on the OUR thread.)

Today, I tried my own replication of the DUT and used a 10F cap to do the measurement:

Over 6.0 minutes, 2.39 to 2.34 volts => 3.2 mW  +/- due to the small V change.

Over 40 minutes, 1.661 V to 1.490 V =>  1.1 mW.

(someone check my math?)

I just report the results as I see 'em.  Rb again @ 51Kohms -- are you doing this, Itsu??
This is a simple test IMO, to see if YOUR replication is in the same ballpark as mine.

I note also that when the cap is first charged, one has to wait for it to "settle down" -- I did this.

I have no opportunity to test this replication with the Tek 3032, until I return from my trip.

[hyiq]

I have been around for a while now, mostly lurking. I used to be a part of many forums but for the following reason I stopped:

Reading through the posts, it’s easy to see who is doing the work to see if we can replicate this or not! Some just do nothing but criticise shoot people down of debunk the Circuit out right before even trying one simple experiment.

For those of you that are "So knowledgeable" put the circuit together and share your results instead of being so negatively destructive. It will take you all of 5 minutes? What’s wrong with you? If you’re really so smart?

Why the debate on Free Energy? Nature has been doing it for billions of years!

Oh to be constructive...

  Chris

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Everything 'in' Nature has a cost, what you deem as free actually had a cost and still does. that is just the way nature is.

[JouleSeeker]

"Overunity" carries baggage, connoting energy out of nowhere, implying a violation of the laws of Physics.
Don't believe in violating laws of physics at all, so I try to avoid the term OU -- and suggest instead "super-efficiency", meaning
n = (electrical power out) / (electrical power in) > 1.

n > 1, super-efficiency -- allowing for anomalous energy input to the device.  (And I favor "dark energy" personally -- 70% of all the mass-energy in the universe is this little-understood stuff, as I posted earlier.)

I avoid "COP" in favor of "n" -- same reason, baggage carried with the term COP >1 going with violating laws of physics.

And finally, I avoid "free energy" because it also connotes now energy out of nowhere (google it). 
IMHO, something like Novel Electrodynamic Energy  would be a much better term.
All, IMHO.

TERMinology in a nascent field of science is critically important.