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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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profitis

Exellent @nul.this line of research is the line that could really lead to success.this goes straight to the heart of the whole friggin continuum of electromagneto overunity hunting,the core,,,,the core.it is here where a second law discrepency must take place in order for any such circuits to be successful.I want to suggest you focus on the simplest of circuits,the coiled bar electromagnet with 2 wires emerging and dc pulsed.play with as much variation of this as you can until you get to the greatest disparities in temp.when you've got your list of greatest disparities its time for the oil bath. 

profitis

Play with number of coil turns,core material(nickel,iron,ferrite,gadolinium,chromium dioxide,manganese dioxide etc etc),indeed I would love to see what the classic gadolinium's result will be.play with thick wire,thin wire,nichrome,constitan,iron wire etc. Play with lots of turns instead of few turns.

nul-points

 
I ought to mention that these temperature readings above are riding on the back of other ongoing long-term tests – the other temperature test I mentioned above that I have in mind involves transitioning between the power-on and power-off state of the circuits, and I won't be in a position to do that for some while now, having just swapped out one toroid-cored transformer for a solenoidal-cored one and restarted my main test
 
obviously the observed temperature-drop effect is taking the measurement values down towards the noise-floor of the datalogging system, but changes in the temperature trends can still be discerned

whilst waiting for my main test to complete, i've been able to use a digital thermometer/probe with a Fahrenheit scale to compare the temperature inside the central gap of the solenoidal-cored transformer with the temperature outside and away from the transformer (approx 15cms, or 6")

my first impressions from the 2nd graph data above (for the solenoidal-cored transformer) were that there was likely no temperature-drop effect with this particular core

using the Fahrenheit thermometer/probe, however, it appears that the effect is also occurring with this core too, although at a smaller level – more than a dozen comparisons have reliably produced a 0.2 degF change in the temperature readout within approx 30s of changing the probe location between internal and external to the core (ie. the temperature reading, internal to the core, is consistently 0.2 degF lower than the external reading)

when I get to a convenient break in my main testing, i'll focus on the temperature drop effect and try  out a few ideas to improve indications and start to try and identify the key conditions

cheers
np
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

MarkE

Quote from: nul-points on August 09, 2014, 03:20:27 PM
 
I ought to mention that these temperature readings above are riding on the back of other ongoing long-term tests – the other temperature test I mentioned above that I have in mind involves transitioning between the power-on and power-off state of the circuits, and I won't be in a position to do that for some while now, having just swapped out one toroid-cored transformer for a solenoidal-cored one and restarted my main test
 
obviously the observed temperature-drop effect is taking the measurement values down towards the noise-floor of the datalogging system, but changes in the temperature trends can still be discerned

whilst waiting for my main test to complete, i've been able to use a digital thermometer/probe with a Fahrenheit scale to compare the temperature inside the central gap of the solenoidal-cored transformer with the temperature outside and away from the transformer (approx 15cms, or 6")

my first impressions from the 2nd graph data above (for the solenoidal-cored transformer) were that there was likely no temperature-drop effect with this particular core

using the Fahrenheit thermometer/probe, however, it appears that the effect is also occurring with this core too, although at a smaller level – more than a dozen comparisons have reliably produced a 0.2 degF change in the temperature readout within approx 30s of changing the probe location between internal and external to the core (ie. the temperature reading, internal to the core, is consistently 0.2 degF lower than the external reading)

when I get to a convenient break in my main testing, i'll focus on the temperature drop effect and try  out a few ideas to improve indications and start to try and identify the key conditions

cheers
np
If you have stable and accurate current and voltage sensing, then you can use the coil wires themselves as a resistance thermometer.

nul-points


genius!!   ...why didn't i think of that?!?    :'(
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra