PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Tudi]

@null-points : was more rhetorical about the peaks. If you manage to get harmonics with looping signals continuesly increasing the peaks, to respect the energy conservation theory, the duration of the peaks should decrease at every loop. But if they decrease, then in order to get a harmonics, your circuit should get "shorter" at every loop for the same signal OR you will get the harmonics at different intervals 2x, 3x, 4x...which practically would lead to a totally random signal output regarding peaks ( which most people do get ).
The interesting question is, what is the shortest peek length this circuit can handle ? What happens after then length would want to further diminish ? (I'm almost shore there is a theory for this) My guess is that the peak length gets so small it should get passed undisturbed in the circuit and the value of it eaten up by the R or C in every loop.

[nul-points]

@null-points : was more rhetorical about the peaks.
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ok, thanks Tudi

yes, there's not much chance of the o/p peaks in my circuit starting to 'overlap', compared to Steven's results with his component values - i've slowed my circuit's pulse o/p down to approx 200Hz with only a 6% mark-space ratio

it sounds like a system would need to have good stability to 'synch' as you described, and i noticed (as did Jaime with his build?) that even at my lower operating frequency, the 'breadboarded' circuit is very sensitive to stray capacitance effects

interesting ideas - let's hear what Steven makes of them when he's back online

thanks
np


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[nul-points]

Hi All,
I have some more results. I have rebuilt the circuit quite a few times and am getting good results on the measurements so far. I have improved my output readings so far as to say I believe I have replicated Dr Jones Circuit and results.
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All the Best.

  Chris

hi Chris

thanks for sharing your results with us, it's encouraging that they are supporting Steven's own results - the set of successful replications is growing!


BTW  could you help those of us who have smaller displays on our computer systems?

it would be very helpful if you could reduce the size of your images before posting, because wide images force all the text on every post on the page to require horizontal as well as the usual vertical scrolling in order to read all of each post

a maximum width of around 800 pixels should still leave a suitable resolution for most images - and it should also allow folks with limited screen-width displays to be able to read the entire page just by scrolling down

thanks in advance for your help with this


i meant to say above, nice clean build you have there - compared with my 'birdsnest' construction!

all the best
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[JouleSeeker]

  I appreciate all the good ideas and replications going on here.  I've just had time to read over quickly before hitting the road.  Will check back this evening, if the hotel has wifi...

Thanks nul-pts, good tests, and Chris and all.  I like the way you guys jump in and get things done! 

[ltseung888]

My experience with this type of "resonance" circuits is that the performance can be greatly affected by changing the length of the wires; changing their spacing and using different holes on the breadboard.

In Hong Kong, we used two ATTEN Oscilloscopes to compare the Input and Output.  Much time was used to tune (compare the Output Power waveform with the Input Power waveform).

Simply connecting the circuit and performing the measurement is unlikely to yield the "resonance" results.  Replication will not be achieved without tuning, tuning and tuning.

Hope this hint helps.