PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

  I've arranged to meet with colleague at the university with a cal'r on Friday for preliminary tests.  He noted that there it takes a long time for the cal'r to settle down in temperature once the device is inserted, so one has to put it in and wait a while.  He noted that he may need to do some tests next week or so, since I will be on travel starting 18 July -- a long-planned family trip to the midwest and Maryland.

  Right now, I'm planning on cal'r tests for three devices:

1.  sj1 circuit
2.  Nul-pts mod; hoping it arrives in time!  I think it will.
3.  A circuit sent to me by Lawrence Tseung; see attached.

I'm willing to test other circuits in the future, when I get back (so after Aug 6th).   Welcoming further entries; you may wish to see how Round One in the cal'r goes.

As regards the "contest" that I proposed, the clear winner is Nul-points!  (Xee2 said he did not want to be in the contest per se, and Lasersaber's device came in too late...)  Soon as I get your address, NP, I wish to send you the $100 prize... I keep my commitments as best I can.   And, as I said, if it turns out to be OU in the Cal'r test, then that goes up to $200...  Not much (sorry), but hey, it may the first prize awarded in the OU research field!  (Does anyone know of a previous prize awarded?  or even a bet won?) 

Congratulations NP and thanks so much for participating in this research effort.

BTW -- the Tseung device (attachment) uses a lot of Pinput -- measured by two 10,000 uF caps, I find about 90mW for Pinput.  BUT -- what counts in the next "contest" is the RATIO of Pinput (measured used the cap/time method) and Poutput (measured in the cal'r), that is, n = Pout/Pin.

[nul-points]

welcome back, Steven!

it's good to hear that it's possible to find a positive reception for alternative energy efforts

of course, the regular 'renewable energy' approaches are not in question, but it would be great to see some of the serious funding currently directed at very esoteric research being shared with more immediately applicable novel energy conversion technology

i'm sure that investigations in the alternative energy arena could be just as challenging and fulfilling as some of the ongoing high-profile, international experiments - and hopefully more productive and beneficial to a wider section of the global community


i hope your arrangements for the calr. test work out for you timewise - i was hoping that my circuit would be with you early this week, but you have a few circuits to test, so hopefully it will arrive while you're testing the other units

that's very kind of you to say that my circuit won the competition - i think there were equally good contributions from all, in one respect or another!  it was good fun to try out different variations and see if improvements could be made, and also learn a lot about the different characteristics of this seemingly 'simple' circuit

please keep the prize from this stage and combine it with the prize for achieving a self-runner - i feel that so far we've been attempting just to improve efficiency using standard techniques, but if we can achieve a self-runner then we'll have achieved something which is a totally new concept to classical science

i'm looking forward to hearing some results from the calr. testing - whatever the outcome it will be interesting to get a better picture of the energy behaviour of these circuits


thanks and good luck with the testing!
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[DrStiffler]

welcome back, Steven!

it's good to hear that it's possible to find a positive reception for alternative energy efforts

of course, the regular 'renewable energy' approaches are not in question, but it would be great to see some of the serious funding currently directed at very esoteric research being shared with more immediately applicable novel energy conversion technology

i'm sure that investigations in the alternative energy arena could be just as challenging and fulfilling as some of the ongoing high-profile, international experiments - and hopefully more productive and beneficial to a wider section of the global community


i hope your arrangements for the calr. test work out for you timewise - i was hoping that my circuit would be with you early this week, but you have a few circuits to test, so hopefully it will arrive while you're testing the other units

that's very kind of you to say that my circuit won the competition - i think there were equally good contributions from all, in one respect or another!  it was good fun to try out different variations and see if improvements could be made, and also learn a lot about the different characteristics of this seemingly 'simple' circuit

please keep the prize from this stage and combine it with the prize for achieving a self-runner - i feel that so far we've been attempting just to improve efficiency using standard techniques, but if we can achieve a self-runner then we'll have achieved something which is a totally new concept to classical science

i'm looking forward to hearing some results from the calr. testing - whatever the outcome it will be interesting to get a better picture of the energy behaviour of these circuits


thanks and good luck with the testing!
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

@nul-points
I must congratulate you on you admiral decision not to accept the 'Dr. Jones' prize. I must admit I will eat crow on my initial feelings of if someone would take receipt. Had they, they would have been a non-credible contributor to the endeavor. I am still not sure why a Prize even had to be offered when everyone feels its a humanitarian search?

In short, I must rethink your direction.

[JouleSeeker]

@nul-points
I must congratulate you on you admiral decision not to accept the 'Dr. Jones' prize. I must admit I will eat crow on my initial feelings of if someone would take receipt. Had they, they would have been a non-credible contributor to the endeavor. I am still not sure why a Prize even had to be offered when everyone feels its a humanitarian search?

In short, I must rethink your direction.

  I guess we don't need your approval, friend Dr., but a small prize might be fun and encouraging and a milestone of sorts.  The current prize goes to the device with the largest efficiency, n = Pout/Pin , where Pout is measured in a cal'r and Pin is measured by the cap/time method (both for increased precision).

[nul-points]

@nul-points
I must congratulate you on you admiral decision not to accept the 'Dr. Jones' prize. I must admit I will eat crow on my initial feelings of if someone would take receipt.
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In short, I must rethink your direction.

that's very honourable of you, thanks