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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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JouleSeeker


The short essay below is based on a post in another forum back in March, and I invite comments.
I realize that my own little device is far from producing tens of watts...

  I have been active in novel-energy research since the early 1980's beginning with my research in muon-catalyzed fusion.  See, for example, my paper in Nature 1986:
S.E. Jones, "Muon-Catalysed Fusion Revisited," (Invited article) Nature 321: 127-133 (1986).

   I share with many of you an overall goal of seeking for and promoting novel energy sources -- with scientific RIGOR including careful measurements -- without RANCOR or mocking.  I have found  this forum to provide a decent venue to promote rigor while -- for the most part-- avoiding mocking and rancor.  That's why I'm here.

I have at my home electronics bench an ATTEN 1062C digital storage oscilloscope, a DC power supply and a self-ranging multimeter, and a decent supply of transistors, resistors, inductors, capacitors, LED's, wire, etc.   At the University from which I retired after a career of physics research and teaching for over twenty years, I have access to more expensive scopes such as a Tektronix 3032 ( which will calculate MEAN power) as well as function generators, gaussmeters, etc.  I now live in the country, but I drive up to the university from time to time.   IOW, I have some pretty decent test equipment available -- and I would be glad to use to it to test YOUR novel-energy device, if you claim it meets the criteria below.

I would define a "novel energy"  device that has merit for science and for society as follows -- here are my criteria at this time:

1.  Energy from a non-conventional source.  This excludes:  fossil fuels and biomass burning, solar (including wind and wave power), geothermal, nuclear fission or fusion (although I should not exclude cold fusion -- but see point 3).  It does not exclude:  earth's gravitational or magnetic fields, galactic magnetic fields.  Even currently unknown sources are allowable -- and sought.

2.  More power out than in (that is, efficiency n = Pout/Pin > 1), also known as "overunity" (OU).  This does not mean that principles of physics such as conservation of energy are (necessarily) violated.  It does imply a novel energy source.  Multiple methods of measurement are preferable, but the experimental method and the measurements must bear scrutiny (e.g., a peer-reviewed paper would be great!)

3.  The observation of OU must be repeatable.  A device must work every time specified conditions are met.  Successful replication must be demonstrated also.

4.  The power output must be capable of scaling up.  (Unlike extracting tiny currents from a magnet or iron pyrite, for example.) To be more than a curiosity, a scaled-up working device should produce at least tens of watts.

5.  I would prefer that results and inventions be freely available worldwide -- certainly not controlled by some big corporation or government entity.  A benefit to humanity is sought, not beaucoup-bucks for an elite few.

6.  If a theoretical model is claimed, the basis of that model needs to be empirically demonstrated. 

I welcome comments on the stated criteria, which I may amend as time goes on.

kooler

so
i messed around with the core tonight and they are great.. but there not good for low current circuits.. but that might be me.. i stated with 6 turns bifiliar.. and went to 12 turns bifilar which lowered my draw 5 ma in my circuit.. so i might need to try more turns on the primany windings.. the bemf of this with the jt circuit is real good.. right now i got 80 turns of 24 awg and it lites a neon really good.. 113 dc in a capacitor with a 7.4 ma draw.. i was hoping better results from a 80000 perm core..
oh.. i was using a 1.2 volt AA battery to test this core..
so i will look around for a better core for all us to use later..
i know this core would work 200 % better without this thick plastic cover on it.. cause the core is a 1/16 away from my wires..
but if you do buy one of these.. don't touch the tape wound core inside the cover it is very thin and sharp.. it makes a razor blade feel dull..
but if you discharge a cap thru one of these with 80 turn secondary it will get you about 4000 volts at 14 hz..
oh and it makes no noises at 2 khz - 27 khz..
the toroid core i have that i get smoking results from has a aluminum band on the outside and inside of the toroid.. and has 32 turns bifilar on it.. it is purple..

robbie


DreamThinkBuild

Hi Prof. Jones,

Has your circuit been scaled up with higher power levels?

If this has 8x cop just imagine using a 230 watt solar panel as the driving input. (230w*8cop)-230win= 1.61Kw spikes out. Buffer the spikes in a ultra-cap bank, dump to charge controller to maintain the battery and run a water heater on the dump load.

Pirate88179

Robbie:

I have always read that Metglass has the highest perm.  We used to make the ceramic nozzles for the production of Metglass.  Google it and check the numbers to see if I am correct.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

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Quote from: JouleSeeker on August 17, 2011, 10:32:35 AM
I would define a "novel energy"  device that has merit for science and for society as follows -- here are my criteria at this time:

1.  Energy from a non-conventional source.  This excludes:  fossil fuels and biomass burning, solar (including wind and wave power), geothermal, nuclear fission or fusion (although I should not exclude cold fusion -- but see point 3).  It does not exclude:  earth's gravitational or magnetic fields, galactic magnetic fields.  Even currently unknown sources are allowable -- and sought.

2.  More power out than in (that is, efficiency n = Pout/Pin > 1), also known as "overunity" (OU).  This does not mean that principles of physics such as conservation of energy are (necessarily) violated.  It does imply a novel energy source.  Multiple methods of measurement are preferable, but the experimental method and the measurements must bear scrutiny (e.g., a peer-reviewed paper would be great!)

3.  The observation of OU must be repeatable.  A device must work every time specified conditions are met.  Successful replication must be demonstrated also.

4.  The power output must be capable of scaling up.  (Unlike extracting tiny currents from a magnet or iron pyrite, for example.) To be more than a curiosity, a scaled-up working device should produce at least tens of watts.

5.  I would prefer that results and inventions be freely available worldwide -- certainly not controlled by some big corporation or government entity.  A benefit to humanity is sought, not beaucoup-bucks for an elite few.

6.  If a theoretical model is claimed, the basis of that model needs to be empirically demonstrated. 

I think this make good sense, and I fully support this as marching orders going forward.

-Nils