PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

PS -- I would like to go to much higher power output now.  Above in the thread, we had a bit of fun going to low power INPUT, but this resulted also in low power output. 

Let's crank it up -- to the level of tens of watts (the more the better) POWER OUT with the JT/sj1 type circuits, shall we?.

Sure, this will require higher P-in as well, but let's get into the realm of watts and tens of watts, and see what the Pout/Pin ratio does as we do so!

Can we do it? 

Besides, the world needs abundant light and power, not so much long-battery life low-level LED light sources.

Best Wishes to All,
Steven J

[viny]

  I spent much of today reading up on Tesla Switches and NP's work three years ago on switches + caps + inductor(s).   VERY interesting, and I can readily observe the admirable tenacity of many of you who have been at this for a long time, like NP.   I appreciate your humor also, NP, NerzhDishual and so many others.  Fun reading.

   As for me, early work in alt-energy was in muon-catalyzed fusion then cold fusion...  which we're still pursuing, although my involvement there at the university is less than it was:

   From what I've learned over the past year or so on this and related forums, it seems the following have the greatest hope for early success -- and frankly, I'm not so sure this tail-spinning economy is going to fly much longer, so I sense some urgency in our joint efforts:

(No particular order)

1.  Joule Thief/ sj1 - style circuits -- the main subject of this thread.  Thanks to Nul-pts for his tenacity on this one!

2.  Gabriel and Thane-Heins bi-toroidal transformer approaches

3.  Motor-generators,  Adams, RomeroUK, Bedini, Konehead, Muller, etc.

4.  Tesla-Brandt switches

5.  Tesla coil approaches

(The above appear to have in common collapsing fields/switching) 

6.  Gravity/motion devices

Comments solicited on which path (or describe another!) --  is "most likely to succeed for mankind in a hurry"!

Dr. Jones: Would you not consider on your list Donald Smith device (mod. by Zilano on Energetic forum), since he could get an OP around 10 KV in a close loop?

    Viny

[JouleSeeker]

Dr. Jones: Would you not consider on your list Donald Smith device (mod. by Zilano on Energetic forum), since he could get an OP around 10 KV in a close loop?

    Viny

YES!  that is included in item #5 -- Tesla coil devices.  I followed the Zilano discussion thread with great interest, but in the last few days she has gone away after saying she would go...  I don't know what to think of that...  What do you think of her "disappearance"?

[Hope]

 

First Steve,  struck a sample deal if this is alright for M457 at under 60 Euro each. They will give the forum a great deal if we all use a descriptor they assign us.

If I will order four of them.  The M-616 are NOT in stock. So ordering from source is large shipping costs.

What I feel we really need is a input core with a BI-FILAR winding in place to be used to set the magnetic pathways. BUT this core should not be moved once it is magnetized and then the winding should be used to control the inputs.

Also on the secondary,  a BIFILAR pick up, I think then initial pulsing to set these pathways alignment should be done with a totally assembled device and it would be best NOT to re-orient or move the device  unless you're re-aligning it when it is in the new location.  It will matter how it is oriented and there will be a optimum due to natural magnetic currents.  But this will also be a value to us while designing to make it the best we can and then will matter only a bit when we move the device around to use it later.   Each time we move a device the tests will turn out a little different due to natural magnetic currents interacting on out devices currents.

Last of all, is it the permeability or the Tesla rating that is most important??  Can we agree upon a band of frequency or a range of the frequency we suspect will be effective.  If Mavendex will call an talk to their engineer he can relay what he thinks overall and we can truly get a lot of "not optimum" cores out of the picture.   They have lots of cores of many types, they can even build cores like Thanes or Klingelhofers for samples to us.

[viny]

YES!  that is included in item #5 -- Tesla coil devices.  I followed the Zilano discussion thread with great interest, but in the last few days she has gone away after saying she would go...  I don't know what to think of that...  What do you think of her "disappearance"?

Woops! what a shame..