PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

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Kooler and I have been able to get Joule thief circuits to light an LED dimly on as little as 5 micro-watts of input power using a MPSA06. You may want to try that if you can get one. The MPSA06 seems to work better than a 2N2222 at low power.

Hi Xee2,

I have seen some very broard results with the transistor/fett 's I have used. Some are no good at all and some work ok but some work really well. I agree, this is very important to try as many Fetts/Transistors as one can to get the best results here. Not any old Transistor/Fett will do.

Thanks I will source a MPSA06 and give that a go.

All the best

  Chris

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Hi nul-points,

Nice work!

All the best

  Chris

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COMMENTS ON DR. STEVEN E. JONES CIRCUIT (using hyiq schematic)

This circuit has an advantage in that almost all of the energy in the collapsing magnetic field of L2 is transferred to C2. Where as in a normal Joule thief some of this energy is returned to the battery. This is a result of the resistor VR2 preventing rapid current flow back to the capacitor/battery and thus forcing the energy into C2. However, in order to be over unity the energy in the collapsing magnetic field of L2 would have to be greater than the energy used to create the magnetic field. This would conflict with historical experimental data on energy stored in magnetic fields of coils.

Hi Xee2,

I agree. Here are my thoughts. First I don't disagree with science. Science is mostly correct but in my opinion we have not fully understood all of it yet.

The Energy :

The Energy we are seeing I believe is not directly from the Coil or the Magnetic Field. I believe this "Extra" Energy is from the Short duration Pulses we are shunting into a very low resistance (The low impedance Coil). Nikola Tesla explained it but I cant find the exact quote, but it goes similar to the following: "The operator threw the switch and was killed instantly"

As the switch is closed for an instant, a surge of Energy shunted into the low impedance of the coil causes a pressure wave and this pressure wave draws in the surrounding Energy of the Vacuum.

EDIT: Causing SOME of the oscillations we are seeing...

I could go a bit further here but think it would cause controversy.

So this is where I believe it is coming from thus far but have no proof.

So what next, how to self power and scale? This could be looked at in many ways. Lots of little oscillators all connected in parallel, or in series, or in a flip flop arrangement.

To much speculation could have us spend to much time not being constructive so I must leave my speculations here.

All the best

   Chris

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Regarding the small power levels involved in this circuit, the good old germanium diodes like 1N34, 1N34A  or also some ancient germanium European types like OA160, OA161, OA5 etc could be used. If you happen to have any germanium bipolar transistor left somewhere, you can use it here also as a diode, by connecting its base to its collector and it will be the anode and the emitter will be the cathode (for an NPN transistor of course, for a PNP they reverse).  Only drawback is the much lower reverse voltage capability due to the 5-7V or less base-emitter reverse voltage ratings.

With such diode any AC that might come from the circuit direction via the negative rail (or the positive if you place the diode there) will be half-wave rectified, you may wish to move the C3 filter further towards the battery in this case so that it should not shunt any AC before the diode.

Gyula

Hi Gyula,

Your expertise is very much appreciated! Thanks. So just to confirm, move the diode in Circuit V5 in Reply #174 to the other side of C3? So the Cap is not affected by the diode?

Thanks for your other suggestions also. I will have  A look around and see what I have.

All the best

  Chris

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Hi Xee2,

Thanks for your suggestion. Circuit Schematic is attached. I put that this is experimental as I had the POT on the positive rail and the effect was lost so as I have not yet tested this circuit its experimental. I will test it today though.

All the best

  Chris

Hi All,

I have tested this circuit (Chris's Circuit Replication V5 - Experimental Input Diode D3 Small) and there is a deminished end result. I believe there is an oscillation through the battery also and this increases the output. Maybe like the Bedini Charge Popping?

Not 100% conclusive yet, but all tests point to a Diode being not good on the Positive Rail.

If the Electric Charge works like Edward Leedskalnin said it does, and this can be debated, we would get different results with the transistor on the Negitive side of the low impedance Inductor and possible loose the end result all together. It appars this is true so far.

I am still getting good results but attempts in looping/self running have all failed. This does not mean this is not COP < 1. Just that I have failed to date at self looping.

Scaling up is also still something I am having trouble with. Increased Voltage should mean increased Turns on the Low Impedance coil but also means in the adjusting of the circuit components, components burn out much quicker if the right values are not achieved quickly.

Still working on this, also trying to get some work done on my other projects so may be a bit before my next post.

All the best

  Chris

EDIT : P.S. The best Circuit to consistently measure an "Energy Gain from the Vacuum" to date is: