PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[dimbulb]

98% of OU claims are false. That being said most everyone falls for at least one false claim and gets burned.
Those who persist begin to narrow the search finding commonality among reputable theorists.
If you want to do this right takes a real disciplined study and historical savy of this field along with a humble attitude
about would be scientist that were discredited, ridiculed and murdered. In between this endeavor is relaxation.

Humility to open your mind to people who may not be educated but may have a small piece of the puzzle.
In doing so whole souled may require unbuttoning your shirt and watching Joseph Newman spin
500 pound magnet preaching unorthodox magnetic theory, force your mind not to form any opinion other than it is interesting.
I enjoy your work it takes creativity who knows what part of the puzzle it may someday solve.
An exercise in not forming opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RN1Pbh93w
step two unbutton the shirt this will convince businessmen with basic knowledge of golf carts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg4_c7InHrI

Everyone has their own way when it comes to exploring uncharted waters.
Are there OU devices, most definitely.
Are there men in black. yes

[JouleSeeker]

Thanks for the comments; I resonate especially with dimbulb here:

98% of OU claims are false.  [snip]
Humility to open your mind to people who may not be educated but may have a small piece of the puzzle.
...
I enjoy your work it takes creativity who knows what part of the puzzle it may someday solve.
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg4_c7InHrI

Everyone has their own way when it comes to exploring uncharted waters.
Are there OU devices, most definitely.
Are there men in black. yes

  There were interesting corroborative statistics presented -- I recall, but don't know where, this forum is so huge -- in essence said:
   A rich fellow decided to use his money and expertise to explore OU claims.  He visited over 100 "inventors".  Of these:
1.  Half were bogus, but the inventors did not know it -- poor measurement methods etc.
Many of these would not believe him when he showed them wrong...

2.  A large percentage were bogus, scams.

3. TWO actually were OU, by his testing.  He tried to help the inventors get their devices out for use.  One fellow wanted an enormous amount of money UP FRONT from a European royal -- the deal fell through.

  Did any one else see this posting?  I think it was on the Romero/Muller thread... if you find it, pls let me know... I'd like to get the story straight. 

[JouleSeeker]

  I found it!  I must say, Nul-Pts always provides intriguing posts, and I found this in a posting of his in May.  (I used "prince" to find it in my search, I recalled that word):

Nul-points post, and if you care to comment further NP, I'm all ears!!

Here is a small snippet from an email I received a few weeks ago. I have edited out the names. I thought this was very telling.

I know a man xxxxxxxx He made it big in the xxxxx business. He sold out to some international conglomerate and is set for life. As part of his humanitarian contribution to the world he decided to search for a true free energy technology and do what it takes to finance it and develop it into something workable, hoping to do an end run around the MIB.
He doesn’t do all his work on the Internet.

For the last two years he has traveled to the prospective inventors with about $50,000 in Tektronix energy analyzers and other support equipment (including the FET probes). When I talked to him last, about 4 months ago at xxx here in xxxx, he said he had personally interview 118 individuals in 10 different countries. He said:

4% are outright Fraud (I thought that number was low)
48% have instrumentation errors and 80% of those are with current analysis â€" especially pulsed current.
48% are delusional about their accomplishments and the manner in which they evaluate their results

It’s those last 48% that clog up the forums and discussion groups. You can show them with the latest equipment that their setup is only running at 70% efficiency and they will continue to think they have made a breakthrough and want you to provide them a research grant and buy stock in their company.

So far he has found two legitimate OU devices one that operated at the 1 watt power level and another at 1000 watts. He attempted to get the second one together with a prince in Europe that was ready to finance a manufacturing effort, but the inventor wanted 60 million Euros up front. So far the people with the working inventions are impossible to do business with. No wonder so many inventors go to the grave with their secret. This is the same problem that Stan myers had.

Thanks again, NP, my good man!  very interesting statistics, and sounds about right to me.

[xee2]

2 uA Joule thief. Video at >>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9HQkDnIuU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[xee2]

energy calculation for 2 uA Joule thief:

10,000 uF capacitor
start voltage = 1.358
end voltage = 0.599
time = 84 minutes = 84 * 60 seconds = 5040 sec.

Joules = 0.5*C*(V1^2 - V2^2) = 0.5*10000e-6*(1.358^2 - 0.599^2) = 0.0074

watts = Joules / seconds = 0.0074 / 5040 =  1.468 uW