PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Staffman]

I would really like to see a build with off-the-shelf parts, where possible, to simplify and speed replications.  (I found good-size high-permeability > 40,000 C-cores, which would be great for the two secondaries -- but when I wrote the manufacturer in China, they would evidently not deal with an individual or even my small company= S&J Scientific Co.  Sigh. )  Any ideas?

You may have already check these folks out, but it's a shot.... www.metglas.com... they sell samples and also have distributors. I'm sure they will have more than what you need.

[JouleSeeker]

salve signore Dishual!

if it appears that we have fallen asleep in 'les salles de manger' it is only because we are busy in 'les cuisines'!!!

(my on-going SJ1 / Tesla-Switch experiment has now recharged a test cell back to 1.263V so i will start the comparison test run to see how long it takes to discharge the same voltage drop without the TS configuration - i'll post initial feedback early next week)

i'll look forward to listening to mr Prigent when i return after visiting family this weekend 

greetings all
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

  ACtually, my friends, there is some interest in the "New Renaissance Prizes" which I'll discuss as that work proceeds.  All too slowly, it seems at times, but this is a HUGE goal we are undertaking in our quest for novel energy sources. 
 
Exciting result, NP -- I look forward to your further results.  Your combination of an sj1-type circuit with Tesla-switching is clever and I hope successful.

Meanwhile, forgive me (pardonnez moi) -- but I have become enamored with testing the BiTT devices proposed by Thane Heins.  And I'm bringing a discussion with WOOPY on the BiTT into this thread if I may.  We consider all sorts of things here, but I find it difficult to keep track of multiple threads - so here go:

Hi Joule Seeker

Now that i think to understand better the BITT from Thane Heins. i tried to find an aplication with a windturbine proposal.

If i have understood right, the Bitt would really improve the efficiency of a windmill system, and of course of all other AC powered systems.

It seems too good to be true, isn'it?

I tried to measure the voltage and current of my primary with my scope . But when i connect the ground of the scope i get a big bang (fired the fuse of the grid by using my VARIAC  ). I wonder if i connect the main scope probe to the phase of the variac and the ground of the scope to the neutral of the variac, i can measure without danger.
I need to measure those values to see if this fence wire (isolated ) core can work properly with my very crude BITT proto. Because if it works it is very cheap and easy to do. But perhaps we need high grade core material ??
Any proposal ?

I wonder if this subject is at the right place here, or if it should be moved to your other thread ?

Anyway good luck at all

Laurent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNVdVrny8s4

Yes, I agree this discussion on Thane's BiTT should go to my "other thread" as you say -- it's over here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10773.945

About your vid, Woopy -- yes, clearly the phase angle in a NORMAL Transformer is approximately Zero with no load, and approx. ONE with load.  When we look at waveforms (attached), which could readily be obtained using an oscilloscope, the difference is easy to see.


I like to think in terms of ENERGY flow.  With no load, energy from the grid goes into the inductor and is stored temporarily (first quarter cycle), returning BACK to the grid on the second quarter cycle.  Hence, the AVERAGE power consumed with no load is ZERO, shown by the blue line flat at zero.

With LOAD applied to the secondary, then the energy goes into the load (resistive in this case) and does NOT return to the grid -- and the average power consumed is positive, REAL, non-zero.

I want to turn to the contrasting behavior of the BiTT in my next post.

[JouleSeeker]

At OUR.com, MHigh wrote

The implication in the term "delayed-Lenz effect" is that you are somehow cheating Lenz' law and you have discovered a "work around" and as a result you are getting more output energy because you have less Lenz drag.  This of course is not true. 

I replied:

I have to tell you that the "OF COURSE" argument is not persuasive to me.  I go with experiments, not with conventional wisdom or "of course" arguments.

Now, I suggest we set aside the "rotor speed up" business involving motors -- AND turn our attention to the Bi-toroidal Transformer (BiTT) EXPERIMENTS.  No moving parts.  Much easier (for me at least) to replicate.

Here, I would like to discuss with Woopy and anyone else interested, the EXPERIMENTAL data.  Let us start with this video of experiments performed by OUGuide (OUG), and archived by Deepcut -- which can be viewed (I hope you will take a few minutes to see the Experimental Results) here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGQhwSDDCQY

OUG demonstrates that at 200 Hz, the MOT behaves as we would expect from a normal transformer, that is:
PF = 0 with no load and PF = 1 (approx) with load.

BUT -- by going to 950 Hz, he shows that the PF stays at or near zero without OR WITH load.  That is, the waveform stays about the same WITH or without load!  see attached.  (In an earlier vid in DC's archive, OUG shows the same effect with an incandescent light as the load; different transformer.  Thane has shown this effect with his BiTT transformer also.)

And, correspondingly, the watt-meter shows that the input power goes DOWN when the load is applied at 950 Hz (Pin goes up when load is applied at 200 Hz).

These are experimental data to be explained.  My questions:

1.  Is the observed effect at 950 Hz due to decreased REAL input power being required with load (suggesting a possible path to OU) -- or is it merely a problem or "trick" with the watt-meter?

2.  What MEASUREMENTS can we do to answer the above question?   (no "of course" arguments, please)

[Hope]

Good video Steven,  is this effect scalable?  And I saw Rosie remarking on the E-Cat economic disaster topic 

Do you have access to a lab at this time for certification of a cold fusion reaction?

[woopy]

Hi Prof

Thank's to having moved my post here it is logical

Now we have a small problem, because in the OUG video he is using a frequency variation to decrease the power under load, it is almost the same problem as the acceleration under load  ( in rotating rotor ) at a specific  speed treshold. I got it on my experiment very clearly.

But in the BITT it seems that the frequency as not so much involvement, because it is a magnetic flux path problem , if i read correctly in the Thane's explanations and vids.

So in the Thanes work there seems to be 2 different  ideas.

1- is the regenerative acceleration  wich implies the mutation of a coil from an inductor to become a capacitor, or something like that
and this system is very dependant of the frequency.

2- the BITT where he found that with a specific primary to secondary organisation, you can get a separation of the coupling which generaly occures in standard transformer. And in this case we are very dependant from the phase shifting ability of the system.

Youp i hope i am not too much out of phase here

I join here a video where i tried to link the theory to the real world

but so interesting

good luck at all

Laurent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPpRjSSnAw