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Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, June 28, 2011, 04:05:30 PM

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k4zep

Quote from: neptune on September 21, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
Hi Ben . I feel the need to publicly apologise for recommending you for this project . I made no secret of the fact that I would not spend time and money on this , as I had already built the early V6 version with negative results . You , and a lot more people spent a lot of time and effort , not to mention money on this . On his website and his videos , TT bangs on about changing the world , and creating a better future for his grandchildren . In reality , he has wasted the time and resources of many gifted people who would otherwise be engaged in meaningful OU research .
      At the risk of sounding like a cracked record , I will repeat that Overunity technology is easy to understand compared to the psychology behind it . The kindest thing I can think of to say is that TT suffers from delusions . There is much more I could say , but maybe I have already said enough .What hope for Humanity?
    @tinu . You have every right to say "I told you so . "
    @Ben , we have an old cookbook with a recipe called "Rook Pie " if it helps .

Hi Neptune,

No apology needed.  We all had a great time!  I met some fine folk and
the work continues. 

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

k4zep

Quote from: Pascuser on September 21, 2011, 04:35:16 PM
Thomas Trawoeger is not present, and does not answer our important questions, that's a fact.

That it could be a cheat, we all know it from beginning; and working on this project is the same than for many others: it is a risk.

But we have no proof that his work is a cheating at all. Yes, he says things but don't do it (he said he would send you a reactor, he said he would send me one for 50cm pyramid, etc). he does not spend time to really help people working here. Doing a video with many holes and saying: all is explained so now do it alone is not a good solution.

But, again, we mustn't conclude that he cheated.

We must wait that he decides to help people really, with all what has been asked that he never did.

He told me in July:

"You cant thrust any multimeter, because the Energy output of this reactor is not some known energy coming with two poles :-)
Maybe you saw my outdoor video from V12. The Fan started to turn,but the multimeter showed "NOTHING".
This is because the electrones in the reactor are some overspeeded parts.
You will see, in some cases you can run the Fan with only one Poleout of the Pyramide. But you cant tell this to the guys on the forums, because they will call you a fool :-) "

I know that what is classic laws of electricity does not work with overunity energy.
I worked on a project with a french physicist whose work really is overunity. I tested it myself during months. But I can't get more that 12 Watts with it. COP=10 000, you use micro watts and get watts.

You have a current circulating at the poles of a copper short circuit. If you use classic electricity this is not possible with ohm's law.

So you can't reject this because it does not work like you think it should.
We must recognize that TT is not helping anybody at all for the moment and that nobody can replicate it. Maybe he cheats, maybe not. Ohm's law can't be used to know or other classical laws.

I work on a Tesla longitudinal transmitter since 10 days and it is overunity, COP=1.5
There again classic laws can't be used: when you push the transmitter away, power doesn't decrease in a reverse square law; it gets the same (it decreases when too long away, but remains stable and overunity a long path).

Again don't conclude with what you know.

Good Morning Pascuser,

I won't get into a debate with you but remember this.  In the outdoor video I mentioned in my post.  THERE WAS REAL VOLTAGE, REAL CURRENT and REAL POWER being used by the fan and the load motor!.  Its as simple as that. He was asking us to trust REAL meter/s to show that.   All the statements in not trusting, etc. take it as you will.  Ohms law was at work in that video else you could not have shown current (voltage drop across sensing resistor!) and hence power!!!  He also stated that this device could charge a multi FARAD Cap.  That is real voltage, real current and real power.  When the motor ran and meter did not show voltage was it set on AC (which would show no DC voltage) or not?  Easy to misdirect a person watching and go Ohhhhhhuuuuuuuuu.  You must be very careful.

I wish you the best and best of luck in your continuing work on this device. 

Tesla has my highest respect, I won't even go into his brilliance here.

This is my last comment on the subject.

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP


zhak


zhak

Ben K4ZEP and other
We have a saying, "Hope dies last."
On the German people are also waiting for our arrival TT
And they believe that fellow citizens do not deceive you.
Let's not diverge far!

In the meantime, the pyramid can be used for a greenhouse:) :D

tinu

Quote from: zhak on September 22, 2011, 01:17:16 PM
In the meantime, the pyramid can be used for a greenhouse:) :D

Or as a dog house.
…a zapped dog  ;D  (we wish)