What significance would a gravity powered device have compared to all others?

[christo4_99]

I am sick and tired of all the doubt and all the pretenders. I really feel sorry for the guys who are now getting older even than I (45ish) who have looked for this thing all their lives. I tried to share what I know with John Collins but he would rather arrogantly and stupidly stick to his own ideas (the assumption that Bessler encoded information about his wheel in writing and/or images) and promote things that lead nowhere. I have been at this for 6 years approximately and have all the answers that anyone is ever gonna get from Bessler...which is more than sufficient to build his wheel. And it's not all talk. When the wheel is built,given,my life will be easier but realize that I already know it will work ! This is not another case of someone's mouth writing a check that their ass can't cash. I am finished reaching out to people i pity. I am finished taking a back seat to anyone including the people who stand on science to say it can't be done. I am also tired of the more elite members of these boards and their attempts to try and tell me to hold my tongue (or the like ) based on the assumption that a physicist would know more about perpetual motion than me. I am the only one who knows anything about it.

[AB Hammer]

I am sick and tired of all the doubt and all the pretenders. I really feel sorry for the guys who are now getting older even than I (45ish) who have looked for this thing all their lives. I tried to share what I know with John Collins but he would rather arrogantly and stupidly stick to his own ideas (the assumption that Bessler encoded information about his wheel in writing and/or images) and promote things that lead nowhere. I have been at this for 6 years approximately and have all the answers that anyone is ever gonna get from Bessler...which is more than sufficient to build his wheel. And it's not all talk. When the wheel is built,given,my life will be easier but realize that I already know it will work ! This is not another case of someone's mouth writing a check that their ass can't cash. I am finished reaching out to people i pity. I am finished taking a back seat to anyone including the people who stand on science to say it can't be done. I am also tired of the more elite members of these boards and their attempts to try and tell me to hold my tongue (or the like ) based on the assumption that a physicist would know more about perpetual motion than me. I am the only one who knows anything about it.

christo4_99

The arrogant way you have come across is what has got you in trouble. You are not the only one who knows anything about it. With such claims people want proof, and want to know what experience you have in such a venture.

How many wheels have you built?

I myself have built many. Only a builder will truly understand what they will have to overcome.

Many ingenuous ways have been tried and many documented. What made these wheels/devices not work?

This is information you need to know. To even start to understand and you have not shown any. So people doubt you with out some form of proof to show, that you may know what you are talking about.

There is one thing I somewhat agree with you, but in a different way. A lot of builders have a problem with tunnel vision and can not see the left or the right. So they only really know what direction they want to go. But they miss the problems from the left and the right and because of that can not fully understand.

Try not to develop tunnel visioned.


Alan

[christo4_99]

Hammer, I could give a shit less about any of these boards and all you wannabes. I hope you realize that whatever you say it concerns me in the least. Jump on someone who doesn't know anything and you may get somewhere. I am not complaining about how i am treated. I am saying you are a pretender... and you will see,so in the mean time let go of your egocentricity and listen for a change. All you have accomplished is to run your mouth on these message boards and like the rest are helping people down a road that leads to nothing. My point being that you are not an accomplished person ,nor an authority ,nor well informed are any of the things that people or yourself think you might be. You don't understand my position because you are not in it. Read what Bessler wrote . You will notice the same bite in the things that he said the reason being that he knew something that nobody else knows . Sooner or later no matter who you are you will have to see that. the party is over my friend. This is one man that nobody on this earth will be able to deny . Again here the same mistake is being made: the teacher is being mistaken for a student. If i have the correct principle and you don't that makes me the teacher and you the student. All of you say :proof!...but this is not about proof it's about whatever i want it to be about because I am the real thing and you all are just pretenders... assuming to be able to correct me or teach me something. There is nothing left to be taught. When you understand that you will understand my position and Bessler's as well and perhaps if you are modest enough ,your own.

[AB Hammer]

christo4_99

You are greatly mistaken for I have not just one principle but over a dozen that say they will work. I will be showing some soon in builds not just words. Not to mention I have shown many builds.

Now prove you are not just a loud mouth "want to be a teacher" student.

What machines have you built? NONE? for you haven't even shown an older machine to show you have ever built any at all. So no evidence except you saying you know, and without anything to even show you have even tried to build. Shows you have nothing. 

Show some of your past work and we will see if you deserve the name of a teacher. If you had done this you most likely would not have been banned from Bessler Wheel.

IMO you are lacking forums skill. But if you don't want to show even your old work. Why am I wasting my time with you? I have my own runners to produce and prove.

Good Bye
Alan

[christo4_99]

 In the end as you will see none of this will make a difference... ... Bessler only needed one principle as do I. I don't claim to be a builder/failure. I claim to know what Bessler did and I too am building the same. You cannot hope to compete with this unless you know the same thing that i do. Some people just learn faster than others . What difference do my forum skills make if i have the very principle which  Bessler had ? The popular opinion propagated by certain so called "experts" has only served to inhibit me. Realize that since you are still promoting them and yourself as being superior somehow and to be taken seriously without extending others the same courtesy and leading people to NOTHING... that you have been and remain on the wrong side of things. My efforts are not so empty . How about you PRODUCE something as you have probably had sufficient time. As far as I can tell Perpetual Motion such as that attributed to Bessler has not been seen since. What i am offering is the rebirth of that very thing ! And you expect me to just throw it out there like so much of the bullshit that has been peddled as truth to date ?