Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...

[gn0stik]

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DC2E , already have epoxy covering.

I think the B666BR rubber coated block magnet on this page http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=11 would be better as it's shape would be easier to work with, also rubber would be easier to remove than the black epoxy (as long as there is no nickel covering underneath the rubber). I think that although conductivity has little to do with it, surface conductivity could hinder the process as it would hinder penetration of the current into the magnet, instead causing to arc around the surface.

This is an interesting conversation to read at this web site:

http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm

This was very interesting too...  Perhaps iron wire would be useful here???

Joel:  This morning before going to work I spent a little time and wound a 200 turn coil on the 3 inch long permanent magnet (alnico and placed this coil inside of the larger coil (same as the coil I gave you). When this permanent magnet core coil is driven with my signal generator (.5 V output) at exactly 174.9 KHZ the output coil will light up a neon tube. If you get off this freq nothing will pass through the transformer for the permanent magnetic field cannot be overcome by the "feeble" input. Need some more investigation here. My intent is to drive the input coil at a freq that will cause a difference (beat) freq of 60 HZ between the input freq and the ferromagnetic natural resonance freq. More later.   ~  Norm
PS: with .5 V input I am getting out 60 V

This was very interesting. The 174.926 Hz freq being nailed down is of particular interest, of course, especially since the author made mention of the MRA in his descriptions. Their application is quite different of course. I was also particularly interested in the fact that adding more magnets of different configuration/type increased the freq by exactly one octave to 349.xxx. The freq is additive based on the number of magnets, but gives no regard to the strength of the magnet, which lends credence to JackH's findings.

I wish I had some equipment to test this. I'd be buying one of those magnets and some conductive epoxy on the way home, and working this out. I'd try pumping 8W @ 12V @ 174.926Hz on a square wave into that mag to see what happens.

[hartiberlin]

Very intersting topic !
Finally a very good idea, how to turn on / off a permanent magnet !

The easiest thing would be to use an iron wire and wind a big coil around
a cylindrical magnet with it. This iron coil would work like a iron core and
would get a magnet itsself from the flux of the permanent magnet.
Also it would
shortout the magnet flux from the magnet back to the magnet
in a loop.
Now imagine pulsing this iron coil with 180 Khz thus making this
coil core non-magnetic, and put a few copper coils around the
unit.. So if you switch on the 180 Khz burst, the copper coils
would get induction and if you switch off the 180 Khz burst,
the copper coils don?t get any induction.
This would get us a solid state free energy device, if the
power needed for the iron core coil 180 Khz burst would be less than the
output power of all the copper coils !
This way also nonconductive ferrite magnets could be used !

Maybe this is also the way the method of JackH is working ?

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

This is an interesting conversation to read at this web site:

http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm

This was very interesting too...  Perhaps iron wire would be useful here???

Joel:  This morning before going to work I spent a little time and wound a 200 turn coil on the 3 inch long permanent magnet (alnico and placed this coil inside of the larger coil (same as the coil I gave you). When this permanent magnet core coil is driven with my signal generator (.5 V output) at exactly 174.9 KHZ the output coil will light up a neon tube. If you get off this freq nothing will pass through the transformer for the permanent magnetic field cannot be overcome by the "feeble" input. Need some more investigation here. My intent is to drive the input coil at a freq that will cause a difference (beat) freq of 60 HZ between the input freq and the ferromagnetic natural resonance freq. More later.   ~  Norm
PS: with .5 V input I am getting out 60 V

Hi Liberty, could you please describe in detail, what you have done
there ? Any pics or schematics diagrams ?
Many thanks.

[gn0stik]

Stefan, Liberty should have put that in quotes. It wasn't him that ran that experiment, It's a quote from the link he put in his post. I would recommend reading the whole page, it's very interesting.

Your idea for pulsing a coil by turning on/off a magnet is exactly what I was thinking. When you turn off the current and hence turn the magnet back on, the flux would cause induction, which would cause current flow, for energy reclamation. This could be done in addition to turning a rotor. The possiblities are practically endless. I wish I had access to a freq. gen.

Tao, are you planning on running more experiments on this?

[Liberty]

This is an interesting conversation to read at this web site:

http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm

This was very interesting too...  Perhaps iron wire would be useful here???

Joel:  This morning before going to work I spent a little time and wound a 200 turn coil on the 3 inch long permanent magnet (alnico and placed this coil inside of the larger coil (same as the coil I gave you). When this permanent magnet core coil is driven with my signal generator (.5 V output) at exactly 174.9 KHZ the output coil will light up a neon tube. If you get off this freq nothing will pass through the transformer for the permanent magnetic field cannot be overcome by the "feeble" input. Need some more investigation here. My intent is to drive the input coil at a freq that will cause a difference (beat) freq of 60 HZ between the input freq and the ferromagnetic natural resonance freq. More later.   ~  Norm
PS: with .5 V input I am getting out 60 V

Hi Liberty, could you please describe in detail, what you have done
there ? Any pics or schematics diagrams ?
Many thanks.

Hi Hartiberlin,

I was just pointing out a discussion between Joel and Norm on a web page that I found where they are trying to derive power from a magnet using a beat frequency of around 174.94 KHZ.  I thought that your readers would find it interesting to read about, because it seemed to add to the discussion topic with information about some tests that some guys were doing using two coils and a magnet with a beat frequency.
Sorry no schematics.  But there is a pretty good discussion of what they were doing with a magnet and dual coil setup using 174.94 KHZ to use as a beat freq. with the magnetic field.  It is not clear to me whether the voltage was a result of a transformer stepping up the input frequency or whether it was actually an output voltage from the magnetic field beat together with the magnetic frequency.  They talked as if it were an output voltage as a result of using the beat frequency on the magnet.  

That is about all I know to pass on.  It is a pretty long read, but some of it is interesting to read about the tests using 175KHZ to 180KHZ with a magnetic field.

Liberty