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Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...

Started by tao, June 05, 2006, 11:03:30 PM

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Humbugger

Quote from: gaby de wilde on August 23, 2007, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on August 23, 2007, 11:56:55 AMI'm starting to sound like a believer.  I better take a pill or something.

http://www.london-nano.com/content/newsevents/recentnews/magnettuning01aug07

Here's a link direct to the research group website.  The research appeared in detail in the journal Nature on August 2nd and it shows how a magnet can be ?tuned? by subjecting it to a second magnetic field, perpendicular to the original.

Humbugger

hehehe,

I wrote this so long ago already!

PM FLUX SWITCH
ABSTRACT
Method of preventing magnetic flux from extending into a target material.
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/flux-switching/text/pm-flux-switch

Do notice how I didn't use any perpendicular wording. :D


Seriously, Gaby, to wander into your baited web, here is how I would explain your disclosure, which I had viewed once prior:

Gaby puts a strip of ferrous metal flat against one pole of a permanent magnet and discovers that a magnetic field now extends into the ferrous metal and he can pick things up with the far end of it. 

Then Gaby places an identical second magnet exactly symmetrically and opposed in polarity on the other side of the strip of metal.  He now discovers that the two exactly identical yet opposing magnets no longer exert a strongly polarized field permeating to the far end of the metal strip. 

This is a profound enough discovery for Gaby to write up a formal-sounding legal disclosure, claim it as an invention and draw nice diagrams so that the lesser brains in the world will be able to reproduce his amazing discovery that opposing superimposed identical fields tend to cancel each other.

Is there some deeper, more interesting, more subtle lesson or principal I have glossed over in this analysis, Gaby?  I just know there must be but, as you can see, I am far too stupid to see it or to ever understand it.  Sad, isn't it?   :(   

I'm serious!  While it may sound like I'm being condescending, dismissive and insulting here, the truth is, that's all I really get from your disclosure.  If you find greater and more subtle meaning there, I am truly missing it!  I'm not a physics or magnetics expert and I acknowledge that often profound insights appear deceptively primitive and uninteresting to those whose minds are not tuned in.  Honest!   :-*

tinu

Quote from: Humbugger on August 23, 2007, 03:21:20 PM
You begin to sound like your friend Lawrence Tseung, who claims his theory underlies and explains every new invention in the field of free energy.  Yet his theory actually states nothing, nor can it be proven or disproven except by Chinese proverbs and charming tales of calm lakes and strong sunshine.  To each his own, I say.

I slighty disagree: it states something.
Whether or not it can be disapproved, keep reading and decide for yourself:

Well, this morning I went to make my coffee but I forgot to switch the cooking machine on. Then, I remembered the ?lead-out? theory and I told about it to the cold water. Hear it is: ?dear water, there are billions of molecules in you, all colliding without any loses and all submerged in gravitational field. I don?t care about what you?re doing there, but according to the ?lead-out? theory, you should lead-out gravitational energy and start boiling at once.? Guess what? It started to boil. No I had a real situation. It wouldn?t get cold. In fact it wouldn?t stop boiling!!! Gee, how will I drink my coffee?!! But that?s nothing: the cooking machine, hearing the story from the boiling water, although switched off, started to get warmer and warmer. It finally melted down. Then the whole kitchen. Then my house and then the entire neighborhood. How do I stop it?!!!
Someone has to stop the story; otherwise the whole surface of the Earth will be melted down due to the huge gravitational energy being led out.

Hope you like the story,
Tinu

Humbugger

Just last night, I was reading a very similar item here:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/mailbag.htm

This is an interesting site, although I hear if you get caught there or believing anythink DSimanek says, you will be permanently banned from here...just kidding...uh huh!

Humbugger

@all:  Sent an email to Professor Aeppli; got back a "on vacation" notice from his receptionist.

gaby de wilde

Quote from: Humbugger on August 23, 2007, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on August 23, 2007, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on August 23, 2007, 11:56:55 AMI'm starting to sound like a believer.  I better take a pill or something.

http://www.london-nano.com/content/newsevents/recentnews/magnettuning01aug07

Here's a link direct to the research group website.  The research appeared in detail in the journal Nature on August 2nd and it shows how a magnet can be ?tuned? by subjecting it to a second magnetic field, perpendicular to the original.

Humbugger

hehehe,

I wrote this so long ago already!

PM FLUX SWITCH
ABSTRACT
Method of preventing magnetic flux from extending into a target material.
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/flux-switching/text/pm-flux-switch

Do notice how I didn't use any perpendicular wording. :D


Seriously, Gaby, to wander into your baited web, here is how I would explain your disclosure, which I had viewed once prior:

Gaby puts a strip of ferrous metal flat against one pole of a permanent magnet and discovers that a magnetic field now extends into the ferrous metal and he can pick things up with the far end of it. 

Then Gaby places an identical second magnet exactly symmetrically and opposed in polarity on the other side of the strip of metal.  He now discovers that the two exactly identical yet opposing magnets no longer exert a strongly polarized field permeating to the far end of the metal strip. 

This is a profound enough discovery for Gaby to write up a formal-sounding legal disclosure, claim it as an invention and draw nice diagrams so that the lesser brains in the world will be able to reproduce his amazing discovery that opposing superimposed identical fields tend to cancel each other.

yes, very good this is the point this document makes.

QuoteIs there some deeper, more interesting, more subtle lesson or principal I have glossed over in this analysis, Gaby?  I just know there must be but, as you can see, I am far too stupid to see it or to ever understand it.  Sad, isn't it?   :( 

You don't qualify as stupid as you are capable of asking the question. Stupid people would judge the publication by it's appearance. hahaha I never missed their  comments, one could say I was intentionally hip. hahaha *o-no the colors*

"The research will appear in the journal Nature on August 2nd and it shows how a magnet can be ?tuned? by subjecting it to a second magnetic field, perpendicular to the original."
http://www.london-nano.com/content/newsevents/recentnews/magnettuning01aug07

This is the point the publication was aiming for. "Additional fields may decrease the flux.", there is no need to soften up the whole magnet. :P  If after reading the document the exploitation of the effect is still not jet wholly entirely obvious to you you can still use this new found understanding to understand John Ecklin's work who basically used the same trick in much more complicated more advanced and more useful configurations.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/john-ecklin

The simplicity of my document may be further appreciated when viewed in it's context (of which I still have to write most of. haha) I have just coded up the science journal's archive queries, like this the context is a bit more obvious.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/text/?flux-switching/text/teleportation-of-domain-walls
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/text/?flux-switching/text/overefficient-permanent-magnetic-holding-device
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/text/?flux-switching/text/conservation-of-induction

I'm sure I could write 100 pages about each but I doubt anyone would be willing to read it. Just get to the punchline as fast as possible. I figure written like this you can build the humbugger motor and really call it your own. :D Nothing is quite finished on my site but I'm working at it.  Your friend Lawrence now has a menu with 80 or so links all the way at the right. ;)

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl

I still need to make the overunity.com menu. I guess I'd better go do that now.   before I make myself look like a spammer.  :D

QuoteI'm serious!  While it may sound like I'm being condescending, dismissive and insulting here, the truth is, that's all I really get from your disclosure.  If you find greater and more subtle meaning there, I am truly missing it!  I'm not a physics or magnetics expert and I acknowledge that often profound insights appear deceptively primitive and uninteresting to those whose minds are not tuned in.  Honest!   :-*

Thanks for asking. :)
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Humbugger

Gaby,

Good to see you're in fine form as usual.  I guess the bottom line is how do we move the lines of flux around to where we want them without doing more work than the resulting flux changes can provide back for us in a given scheme.  Always the damn piper to pay, it seems. 

At least it seems that way here in "let's build some and (choose one or more...get rich...save the world...become famous...thumb our noses at the establishment)" land!

the Humbugger   8)