Was Bessler for real?

[stivep]

Format of this forum  as a set of rules is directed to peaceful information  sharing.
  "Street talk" level doesn't require  Unorthodox  form of acting, to comply with such rules.
       Wording "Mentally" refers to anything  related  to your mind but doesn't
            qualify you as "Deranged".
-by that no "insult" but an opinion, was formulated by me _{explained in link you ignored to read}
   Qualification of  processed  data, is always based on given individual ability to assign
       phenomena and events into category recognized by these skilled in art.
          _{explanation is here: https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/deranged-vs-mentally}
               No manifested _("there") by you conduct and criteria of understanding and applying,
                   precise formulation in English Language (e.g. word "mental"), fit into level
                       of this  forum, causing direction of your conclusions oscillating as inflammatory.
                            That factor constitutes your " limitation" and level of recognition
                                in this  discussion. You are expressing yourself  in this forum,  and not
                                    in a nude  beach or swinger club where you can manifest something
                                         else too.
Wesley
   _{Wesley's wife, educationally skilled in art of psychology.}
               

[onepower]

From https://besslerwheel.com/firstlaw.html

What About the First Law of Thermodynamics?
The impossibility of energy for free is enshrined in one of the most fundamental and important laws of physics: the First Law of Thermodynamics or the Law of Conservation of Energy, which states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but can only change its form.

The 1st law claimed.

In a thermodynamic process involving a closed system, the increment in the internal energy is equal to the difference between the heat accumulated by the system and the work done by it.

In effect, they falsely assumed because heat energy as jiggling atoms was conserved in a "closed system" all energy must be conserved everywhere in the universe. However Electric, Magnetic, Gravic field energy and EM waves have no "heat" and are not confined to closed systems. It would seem to me many do not understand the difference between open and closed systems which feels like an important concept.

Here is a bizarre statement from Helmhotz.

No one had ever succeeded, he wrote, in building a Perpetual Motion Machine that worked. Therefore, such machines must be impossible. If they are impossible it must be because of some natural law preventing their construction. This law, he said, could only be the Conservation of Energy.

Wait a minute, wasn't every discovery/invention thought impossible before it was discovered?. Planes, trains and automobiles were thought impossible, computers, radio, rockets, wheels, words, pictures, I mean literally everything. So how is a Free Energy device any different, in fact it's not. The only thing which prevents something from being invented/discovered is a lack of knowledge and understanding.

Skeptics are quick to cite the Laws of Thermodynamics to disprove Bessler's claims. In fact, the argument is circular. The Laws of Thermodynamics do not prove that Bessler's machine is impossible. On the contrary, they are deduced from the "leap of faith" of first presuming it is impossible.

Bingo, we have a winner.

Thermo(heat)-Dynamics(motion) only applies to heat or how fast atoms jiggle. Here's a clue, 99% of the energy in the universe has nothing to do with heat. The universe is only 1% material and 99% vacuum full of Electric, Magnetic, Gravic fields including Electro-Magnetic waves. Thus 99% of all energy relates to field energy not jiggling atoms as heat.

The logic the critics are using is circular and based on fallacies. It falsely presumes that because they have not seen something and cannot understand it then it cannot exist. Wait a minute, doesn't this mean they think whatever they believe no matter how nonsensical must dictate the reality of the universe for everyone and everything?. Indeed, the classic man-god ego trip is alive and well in them.

AC

[adrouk]

From https://besslerwheel.com/firstlaw.html

The 1st law claimed.
In effect, they falsely assumed because heat energy as jiggling atoms was conserved in a "closed system" all energy must be conserved everywhere in the universe. However Electric, Magnetic, Gravic field energy and EM waves have no "heat" and are not confined to closed systems. It would seem to me many do not understand the difference between open and closed systems which feels like an important concept.

Here is a bizarre statement from Helmhotz.
Wait a minute, wasn't every discovery/invention thought impossible before it was discovered?. Planes, trains and automobiles were thought impossible, computers, radio, rockets, wheels, words, pictures, I mean literally everything. So how is a Free Energy device any different, in fact it's not. The only thing which prevents something from being invented/discovered is a lack of knowledge and understanding.

Bingo, we have a winner.

Thermo(heat)-Dynamics(motion) only applies to heat or how fast atoms jiggle. Here's a clue, 99% of the energy in the universe has nothing to do with heat. The universe is only 1% material and 99% vacuum full of Electric, Magnetic, Gravic fields including Electro-Magnetic waves. Thus 99% of all energy relates to field energy not jiggling atoms as heat.

The logic the critics are using is circular and based on fallacies. It falsely presumes that because they have not seen something and cannot understand it then it cannot exist. Wait a minute, doesn't this mean they think whatever they believe no matter how nonsensical must dictate the reality of the universe for everyone and everything?. Indeed, the classic man-god ego trip is alive and well in them.

AC

Nicely written with common sense. But, mainstream science admitting this will just ruin their own stage where they pretty much enjoy to sit and judge. Although, when they are cornered they come up with same reason that more research need to done as they don't have all the answers all the time, while simply forgetting that from the same height in the same time they judge, decide and conclude (even knowing they are blind).

But, what is most frustrating is the fact that any patent office refer to this mainstream science when asked to issue a patent for a working device that is beyond understanding of said so mainstream science.
Basically they have created a system which is fundamental wrong ... only comes to my mind The Inquisition when I try to compare when we know that any FE/OU will serious disrupt many interests more or less occult.

So, we can only quote Galileo Galilei: E pur si muove 

[lancaIV]

Eppur si muove
Two relations are here to differ :

Galileo Galilei as scientist

and

Galileo Galilei as professional theologist ,the Pope his and the church org CEO

Btw : there were in romano-catholic church history many counter-popes ( 13+) = counter-god representence !?
quis,quem,quod
In quis 'bishope of Roma vulgo Papa/conclave : (non)habeamus Papam (5.case : Ablativ) You ,G.G,believe ?
     1633 Galileis tribunal process : 1618-1648  30-years-war !
     Evangelism(Calvin,Zwingli/Luther) / romano-catholizism

    The sun/ORBS turns around URBS/Roma= the Pope ! DOGMA ,for and in the church/Papal-estate !
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Norditalien_und_Mittelitalien_1806.jpg

( 1.Nominativ 2.Genitiv 3.Dativ 4.Akkusativ 5.above 6.Vokativ = Kant'sche Imperativ )

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[onepower]

adrouk

Nicely written with common sense. But, mainstream science admitting this will just ruin their own stage where they pretty much enjoy to sit and judge. Although, when they are cornered they come up with same reason that more research need to done as they don't have all the answers all the time, while simply forgetting that from the same height in the same time they judge, decide and conclude (even knowing they are blind).

But, what is most frustrating is the fact that any patent office refer to this mainstream science when asked to issue a patent for a working device that is beyond understanding of said so mainstream science.
Basically they have created a system which is fundamental wrong ... only comes to my mind The Inquisition when I try to compare when we know that any FE/OU will serious disrupt many interests more or less occult.

I agree but don't think it matters.

What other people believe or not has no real influence on our abilities or what we can accomplish. Many inventors no longer seek investors or patents which is archaic and go straight to crowdfunding. At which point the only requirement is that what your selling works.

Many inventors no longer patent but copyright everything instead. Copyright protects the original expression of an idea in an artistic or literary form. So I build a working gravity wheel as a work of art then publish the pictures, plans and descriptions of how it works. All are now protected by copyright and nobody can copy or reproduce anything I published without my consent/payment. As such nobody can patent my ideas using similar pictures, plans or descriptions because this would be copyright infringement. Copyright is massive and enforced globally because it covers music and literature.

Simply put, if the system does not work to our advantage then we need to change what were doing. To hell with all the useless patents, investors and middle men. If some guy can throw some paint on a canvas and ask millions of dollars then monetizing FE technology should be easy. It's almost as easy as claiming the thing we just created is a work of art, if they don't like art then that's there problem not ours.

AC