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Was Bessler for real?

Started by Dr, July 31, 2011, 11:01:33 AM

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Cloxxki

Quote from: kolbacict on September 07, 2023, 01:20:37 AM
No. Just wanted to introduce community about excellent method of solution inventor tasks.TRIZ.
I don't think that everyone know it. :)
Altshuller is great. It is the best I saw.
Apologies, my reply ended up in the wrong thread. Didn't mean to address you at all.

onepower

On perpetual motion and machines...

Here's a clue...
Question to AI,
Can atoms ever lose all there kinetic energy?

Answer,
QuoteIn classical physics, atoms cannot lose all their kinetic energy because of the principles of conservation of energy. However, in the realm of quantum mechanics, atoms can approach a state of minimum kinetic energy, but they cannot reach absolute zero kinetic energy.

Question,
Can atoms be destroyed?

Answer,
QuoteIn the context of classical physics, atoms are considered to be indestructible, as they are the fundamental building blocks of matter. According to the law of conservation of mass, which is a fundamental principle in classical physics and chemistry, matter cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be transformed from one form to another.

So, if energy and matter including the atom cannot be destroyed and the atom always has kinetic energy (motion) is this not perpetual motion?.

Let's go further, a machine is a physical system using power to apply forces and control movement to perform an action. An atom is a physical system and it has kinetic energy and applies forces. It has many parts(particles/fields) which perform a useful function which is all the material stuff in the universe. Ergo, the atom qualifies as a mechanism/machine and is perpetually in motion because it cannot be destroyed or lose all it's motion.

It would seem to me the people who claim perpetual motion is impossible don't understand what an atom is or how it works.

So this thing many cannot seem to understand is not all that difficult, in fact it should be obvious. I mean when we learned energy and matter cannot be destroyed this should have raised some questions in our mind. Forget creationism that's a rabbit hole but something which must remain in motion which cannot be destroyed definitely raises certain questions.

AC







dxer_87

Yes, atoms can be destroyed, whole things can be. That is because of the dematerialisation. To achieve this atoms of a body are put into unstable condition. That includes: be in motion (high velocity), be in high grade ether, have contact with dematerialisation acid or black matter, or be radiated by special radiation. This was all known before and used even as a weapon or happens as a miracle. But tell me, if there is not any risk, why in normal conditions may classic physics does'nt work? What for? This can happen in a dream/heavens but shouldn't be in the real world. And free energy? There's a just machines from ou parts. Also we have so much different radiation that zero point energy had raised. It would be a sin not to suck this energy and consume it practically.

Best wishes,

Dxer.

lancaIV

Quote from: Cloxxki on September 06, 2023, 06:11:15 PM
Are you a bot? Stefan, is it?

Incorrect statement until someone shows the energy entering the system to hit een COP 1.00001.
It's a lever. No energy is brought into existence.
That oil pump doesn't pump itself and it only bring sup oil and dirt, not electricity or even kinetic energy.

TRIZ,35 problem definition and problem resolving questions/answers .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
demonstration :

Experimental demonstration of the butterfly effect with six recordings of the same double pendulum. In each recording, the pendulum starts with almost the same initial condition. Over time, the differences in the dynamics grow from almost unnoticeable to drastic.

End-stadium :

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj1y_eN4ZqBAxXvdqQEHUksD-gQFnoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw1aLR5d-O7DpbeT-KJIOLoU

resonance disaster or resonance catastrophe

https://www.britannica.com/science/dynamics-physics
Galileo, who, by experimenting with a smooth ball rolling down an inclined plane, derived the law of motion for falling bodies; he was also the first to recognize that force is the cause of changes in the velocity of a body, a fact formulated by Isaac Newton in the 17th century in his second law of motion.
  linear dynamics versus progressive dynamics

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Paul-R

Quote from: onepower on September 07, 2023, 08:56:05 PM

Question,
Can atoms be destroyed?

Certain atoms can be converted into energy in an "H" bomb but if there is an equivalence between energy and matter, how can energy be converted into atoms?