DIY - Stable Redox Molecules

[charly2]

Yes, I have dinking the water for several months, the effects are very similar to the original product (IMO). Almost all members of my family are dinking it as far as today, including my mother who suffered of severe condition of rheumatoid arthritis for the last 35 years and now she can walk again without pain. She is the most amazing recovery case I have ever seen.
I had to make some adjustments to the parameters of the process to find the best point, now I make 5 litters per batch at 0.2% concentration and less electrolyzing time. I have not found yet how to lower the final PH, I always get 7.6 to 7.8
Check ORP/PH urine before and after drinking the water sounds great, never step on my mind. But something I noticed is the fact that drinking the original product or my processed water makes the urine a little foamy, same in both. What is it?, some effect of the body working better? I dont know.

[broli]

Could you elaborate more on the specifications of your current setup please.

What's the current and voltage you provide?
How long does it take to finish a batch? (I also think this would be easier to measure with an ORP meter so you know how much the process changed it)
What do you exactly mean with 0.2% concentration? I doubt this is the NaCl concentration as it seems to be way to high.
How much of it do you drink a day?

And imo your pH is not that bad. A healthy human body has a pH range of 7.35 -7.45 according to the Internet.

[charly2]

At this moment I dont have my notes with me, I will post today later all the parameters.
But a little ahead of the information, I can say that the concentration is 0.2%/100 by weigth, so for 1000mL (or 1000gr) of water  I add 2gr of NaCl.
The process is made at 12dcv in 2 steps and 1 liter is finished in 20 minutes. I use to drink 2 oz twice a day.
I made a mistake on the PH, it is 8.8, quite high imo.
I will post the details later.

[charly2]

Here you have the details:
The mesh electrodes I have are 2x3 inches, 1 electrode has 10.8 sq inch: 2 sides of 3.5 and 3.8 in the "holes". I had to make a 3D model to get those numbers.
It is not easy to calculate the current density on the electrodes, I considered in a very conservative way that the area of the electrode was 3.5sq inch, and I would preffer to keep the current at no more fo 1/2 amp x 1sq inch. It is easy to make them crap if you dont control the current.
They are spaced 3/8" and almost fully immersed in the solution.
In 1 liter of cold distilled water add 1 gram of NaCl, the solution is stirred during the electrolysis process.
Conect the electrodes to the source at 12vdc, that will produce 0.9 amps, run the process for 12 minutes.
After the 12 minutes stop and add one more gram of NaCl to the solution, run the process at same 12vdc, but now the current will be in 1.6 amps, run for 8 minutes.
And that is all.
How I got that recipe?, trial and error.
Hope this helps as a starting point. Please post your results.
　

[broli]

Thanks for the instruction. However most of the things I'm planning will be quite different I guess. I'm going to follow the high frequency flip flop method of this patent:

http://goo.gl/SFCXi

I think the flip flopping has the same function as your stirring, that is to have a continuously agitated solution. Also I'm going to be using mineral water as they do in the patent, they seem to imply that the elusive generated H⁻ ion which would be otherwise short lived would attach itself to these minerals to extend its life span. That's why they also suggest to throw in a rock in the solution. Anyway my biggest advantage is that I also have ordered this ORP meter:

http://goo.gl/pd0ff

So I can have a very good quantitative means of measuring how effective any parameter change will be.

Finally I'm probably going to use stainless steel for the electrodes.