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PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

Started by billmehess, August 12, 2011, 11:13:05 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: bourne on August 15, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
Easy ! Just ignore it.

It's time to leave the left-brain thinking behind.

We can all see the Ego driven business world is corrupt to the core, so why follow it's 'laws'.

I would have thought most of the people here are thinking creatively and for the good of everyone. (both hemispheres)

Nothing is more powerful than an idea.

So how we think, so how we feel, so how we act.

I should imagine, most of those 6000 classified patents had a small amount of good intention behind their creation. That being said, I would say it was a duty to open source anything that is for the betterment of human life.

That's 6000 examples of male dominated, ego driven, left brain thinking to let you know how the world works and what needs changing.

All the best


Well everything you said above sounds right except your first statement 'Just Ignore it".  Unfortunately in this 3D reality ignoring that freight train coming straight at you will for most people result in disaster.  Ignoring it won't make it go away if it is real.  That leaves us only to deal with the question of whether the threat is real.  Somewhere around here or maybe on Panacea university (Ashtweth's site) there is a document telling how NOT to release an invention.  IIRC it had about 3 pages or maybe it was 3 .pdf's of inventions that never made it and the inventors most people never heard of and how they went wrong.  It's a gruesome set of tragic stories all in one reading that would convince anyone the threat is real and to think twice about how to go about this .  Most of these were before the Internet was really big so I think now we have a chance in changing the outcome. 

    I think enough has been said on that.  I do agree putting the focus elsewhere (not ignoring but only being aware while your focus is elsewhere) is a good choice if that is what you meant.  Perhaps we can focus on some possible alternate plans on how to best get this out there.  I don't want this to sound at all condescending and this is Bill's baby but unless he has thought of virtually everything maybe someone may come up with some variations that will be more attractive for Bill or that he can add to his current plan. 
   
    I'm not sure how well Bill knows some of the most altruistic and well known members here but if he does I would ask he consider giving at least 2 of them his plans and maybe have an NDA attached that would run until his demo was either done or MIA.  BTW I'm not offering myself as one here as I don't consider myself well known although somewhat altruistic I don't think I would want the responsibility on this one.  On the other hand maybe Bill already has people in place who would upload the info here if anything went astray. 

    Some other possible ideas if you have not already implemented them:

1.  Put plans up on major file share web sites (like rapidshare.com, megaupload.com, hotfile.com, filesonic.com etc.) located in several different  countries.  Use strong encryption on everything with a long password.  Give the passwords and info to some people you trust who are not readily associated with you. 
2.  Put files up same way but via Torrent as they are so spread out it's nearly impossible to eliminate. 
3.  Open for others to suggest ...

Then take a deep breath and know all will be well  :)

Qwert

To me it's incomprehendable that this kind of a guy, which proved his openness throughout the times while on this forum, that he had secretly made a research. So, I've made my own research of his fields of inerests, checking his posts. I found that except of his SMOT, hydrogen producing interest and his "Mehess Motor", there is just one more, which roughly matches guidelines: it's a device which uses a Peltier  module. I don't believe that there is no input, however, since a Peltier module needs a heat difference input.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5536.msg125893#msg125893
But I even don't ask Bill to confirm this. We'll see it soon...

e2matrix

You know I wondered when the guessing game was going to start.  Hopefully it doesn't annoy you Bill but what are we to do in the next two weeks?  ;)   I didn't want to start and I definitely don't want to start a snowball of people asking Bill for confirmation but it would pass the time to take a couple random shots at what this might be.  I had not thought about a Peltier like device but I think you might be onto something there Qwert.  Battery has been eliminated unless it's a solid state battery.  It has no moving parts so it can't be a motor.  My only thought was something to do with magnets and a MEG type device.  But that doesn't sound like something you can get at ACE hardware so the Peltier might be possible although it would almost fit into the 'exotic' class of materials as something which could be controlled and Bill said it's not.  Yes I know lots of them are in those cheap plastic coolers you can buy everywhere but they aren't that cheap and he did say $20 worth of materials.  Which now that I think of it might rule out anything but a very small Peltier???   Or is it possible to make your own Peltier and Bill has figured out something like this.

   Other wild guesses:
- some sort of odd combination of metals (possibly plumbing parts) that would work as an antenna or do well to amplify or convert the background EMF or ZPE to useful energy.   
- A John Hutchinson solid type of battery baked from common ingredients.

  No confirmation requested.  I'm happy to wait until after the demo and then we can go back to see who if anyone was close. 

AquariuZ

Hi Bill

Thank you for sharing your results. I must however disagree with your chosen method of disclosure. Naturally you will want to make some money off of this, but if your motives are truly humanitarian, why not fully disclose the device RIGHT HERE and RIGHT NOW?

You know as well as we do that a fully disclosed device cannot and will not be patented by any agency or industrial power.

You know as well as we do that a simple *working* device disclosed on the internet will go viral within minutes (yes minutes) and will be built all around the world within hours.

This application for a patent tells me a few things:

a) you wish to protect the invention and concept
b) you do not wish to fully disclose this invention to the general public

The concept or argument that you have filed for a patent "to protect it from being scooped up by moguls" is moot and frankly insults my intelligence.

If you truly have found "the holy grail" there is no need for a demo.

If you truly wish to help mankind disclose what you have found right here and right now without withholding anything. I can assure you that you will be a millionare before the end of this year just by the donations being sent by grateful replicators from all over the world.

Please carefully reconsider your chosen path and motives.

Be honest to us and yourself.

Good luck

evolvingape

Seeing as the guessing game has started I want my tuppence worth...

My initial hope was that it was Ether related, the significance being that zero input required to stimulate a flow of energy would be a significant breakthrough. This would be based on a potential difference between the Ether and the device, or receiver if you prefer.

Much more likely to be an electrostatic device that exploits the potential difference of the Earth's electrical field.

Some further reading:

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2011/08/08/the-amazing-motor-that-draws-power-from-the-air/

http://www.rexresearch.com/jefimenko/jefimenko.htm

My favourite bit...

Electricity Everywhere

The earth's electrical field has been known for centruries. Lightning and St Elmo's fire are the most dramatic manifestations of atmospheric electricity. But the field doesn't exist just in the vicinity of these events; it's everywhere.

The earth is an electrical conductor. So is the ionosphere, the layer of ionized gas about 70 kilometers over our heads. The air between is a rather poor insulator. Some mechanisms not yet explained constantly pumps large quantitites of charged particles into the air. The charged particles cause the electrical field that Jefimenko saw demonstrated. Although it varies widely, strength of the field averages 120 volts per meter.

You can measure this voltage with an earth-field antenna -- a wire with a sharp point at the top to start a corona, or with a bit of radioactive materials that ionizes the air in its immediate vicinity. near the earth, voltage is proportional to altitude; on an average day you might measure 1200 volts with a 10-meter antennas.

Over that past few years, aided by graduate-student Henry Fischbach-Nazario, Jefimenko designed advanced corona motors. With David K. Walker, he experimented with electret motors. An electret is an insulator with a permanent electrostatic charge. It produces a permanent electrostatic charge in the surrounding space, just as a magnet produces a permanent magnetic field. And like a magnet, it can be used to build a motor.

Jefimenko chose the electrostatic motor for his project because the earth-field antennas develop extremely high-voltage low-current power -- and unlike the electromagnetic motor -- that's exactly what it needs.

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This is a very old article (40 years ago) but I believe the mechanism for charged particles being pumped into the air can be explained by volcano's spewing hot molten rock up from the Earth's positively (+) charged core. I cover this, and other things, here:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=182621

RM :)