PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

[CuriousChris]

joule seeker says the wattage is 150 mw or .000015

Did you mean milliwatts or microwatts? I am assuming milliwatts.

mw = milliwatts
µw = microwatts
1000 mw = 1 watt

so 150mw = 0.15w (not 0.000015 which is 15µw)

Power = current * voltage (P = IV)
A very important note here, voltage must be either DC or RMS.

0.15 = 2.5(I)
.: I = 0.15 / 2.5 = 0.06

I = 6mA (0.06A)

More than enough to drive an LED

CC

Edit:

sorry My Bad
I just read the original
it was 0.15mw(150µw) not 15mw

So your calculation is out by a factor of 10.

As Pirate88179 is alluding to. its not the fact you are using LED's its more about how you are driving them.

[altrez]

Bill,

LEDs can be lit very easily from almost any small voltage source. Can you please try to hook up a small motor or Joule Thief to your device? That would put this all to rest and show you have some real power!

Great work!

-Altrez

[Jack Noskills]

More info about my BiTT replication can be found from http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.255.

[wattsup]

You're right, Chet -- no need to respond to ad hominem attacks.  Now back to the science --
Thanks, Bill, for these measurements.  But I need to check your "decimal point" --

E = 1/2 C V**2, here's what I noted:  60,000 uf cap is the same as 60 milliFarads, 60mF,
so we have (taking V on the cap as 0.55V, a rough average):

P = E/t = [1/2 60mF (0.55V)**2]/60 s = 0.15mW = 0.15 MILLIwatts = 150 microwatts.

This is a considerable improvement from the other day, but still below one milliwatt.

@JS

The problem is using  a 60000uf capacitor, you will not be able to bring it down to 0 volts. As soon as your short is open, voltage can rise on its own up to the levels mentioned.

@billmehess

Honestly, I think your call for a demo on the 31st is rather premature. Obviously you are not really ready as I see this is more in a scrambling mode to get something to work half decently. Getting all these people to come in and see a few microwatts (with three modules) in action is not exactly demo material. You will need to provide a fail proof demo showing all the factors in action and that will be difficult at that level in order to cancel all other outside interactions.

Again this is one of the reasons you need to just disclose your build like anyone else on these forums so guys can look into it with you and not through you. It's time to get back down to Earth level and deal with the reality.

@JS mentioned he is available so you have one of the best guys on your side as well as may others here and around the world. If there is something novel is your device, don't worry these guys will HELP YOU find it, explain it, show it and apply it at its maximum effort. But I think the time for playing demo games with the grand trumpets sounding, should subside and I think you will be best served as open source. Patenting a microwatt is not a smart move. I have also lit LEDs when consuming microwatts. Many have.

With all due respect, it's time to open up the basket. It's your call. Hope you make the right decisions. If you want some posterity give your device a name like the "BM Ether Cruncher" or whatever and your name will be in there at every turn.

wattsup

[billmehess]

How interesting I rather thought the value in the exercise was to develop and show a device that had 0 input with a measureable and verifyable output, as well as using no consumables. How much clearer is it than that to for the very first time show a device that is truely overunity.
The ability to light a LED also would show real world application.
Guess I was wrong.
I am going to take your advice Wattup and cancel the demo. I will continue my work and really "beef up" the device to do what ever is necessary to "knock the socks off" in a demo.
This demo was going to cost me quite a bit of money so I will use that for future work.
As always I hold everyone at OU.com in the very highest regards.
Bill