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=THE BIG QUESTION=

Started by pree5, September 03, 2011, 05:28:41 AM

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Perhaps your Bell pic is just one flower on a much bigger tree............
its all "fractals" these days.

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Quote from: pree5 on September 03, 2011, 05:28:41 AM
Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be converted from one form to another and impossible for a machine to be 100 efficient......................................................so =HOW TO WORK A FREE ENERGY?

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The earth has all types of resources that contain energy and the energy naturally changes forms as the earth recycles itself perpetually. I'm not a scientist so can everyone zoom out for one damn minute to look at the big picture? I understand that inventors get tunnel vision because their committed to their goals.  Good you have passion! Start learning how to collaborate with people.  Now its time to put aside the ego and just team up with another breaking edge innovator that complements your tech and has the same ethics/intentions.  It's not about the one golden answer! Its about different combinations of great answers put together. The world's resources of energy are everywhere so there should be a variety of ways and series of systems that harness it.


Things I want to see specifically. Bear with me because if I misspell  the name of a project.


My complaints: (and I watch tons of videos for countless hours on different energy projects).


#1 - Startup Power. Your out there in the garage all the time putting all types of stuff together. Get rid of the extension cord from the power outlet ok? There are already multiple retail systems for casually cranking 50 watts with your arm or hook it to a bike. T
hey are around $450 (one i saw). Figure out how to make your own and save the money but if you have plenty of capital try my idea below.


In the demo videos I saw a kid cranking 50 watts with ease. I think these hand/leg crank generators are like a foundation; ESPECIALLY in a lot of the HHO projects.  Just a first step, but a good FOUNDATION for almost all innovators that need some input electricity for HHO, dry cell, ppm machine, or electric engine. Also when you actually don't have power,  crank power seems to be the most practical for your first batch and its always a building block in a series (unless your input isn't electricity) The sucky part so far is that these cranks arn't efficient because the people can't gear THEMSELVES efficiently it needs a lower gear so people can push harder.


You could attach the handle of a 50 watt crank generator on a wheel; at the opposite end of the wheel, attach a crank to another generator. This way your arms are counterbalanced cranking 100 watts; same motion as the ones at the gym. At the same time your feet are peddling.  On the ground put  2 generators in sequence and attach it to the left foot pedal. Of course align 2 more generators on the right in series and attach it to the right foot pedal. There should be different gears with different approximate output thresholds. With that configuration your running 300 watts (what if you could pull 60 watts X 6 = 360 watts, and getting a fluid, full body workout. Then you could duplicate that with another person and it put it in series so the system can adapt to 1 or more people. When the economy collapses there will be millions of civilian men standing around doing NOTHING it will feel good to crank some energy to heat some water up or cook some eggs.






1.) NOW! Take that 600 watt human crank power (2 people) and charge some standard or liquid valanium or LPV or whatever type of innovative or standard batteries.. Have some deep charge batteries and some short term batteries in series this probably helps a lot.
2.) Start cranking/peddling 600 watts (2 people, 6 cranks each or more) and unloading the batteries at the same time and bridge the power to your HHO Generator.  or your perpetual motion machine, or your dry cell. Or a million other awesome things.  This should jump start whatever your core process is, or just run a nice electric engine since its already electricity you have.


How much power do those commercial HHO welders require?


Can't people use an HHO welder with something else?


Then COLLABORATE with some battery people for storage. Use liquid Valanium (like Apella Resources) (sorry if i misspelled)  or one of these cool new battery technologies.


Imagine an HHO welder running off of a battery bank you cranked with your own body (we are high tech batteries) and barely burnt any calories. Then you integrate the blazing hot welder into A WATER TURBINE ENGINE: igniting a chamber with a timed MIST of water and a little HHO gas and the water steam would expand 3300%(?) running a steam turbine engine the world has never seen. This would create off the chart horsepower and would have better efficiency than large multi chamber PISTON engines. Cars would all be turbines but it was a Ford Banking decision and we know why they opted for low efficiency, high maintenance piston engines. Money of course. Water turbine! Water Turbine! Use an HHO welder to ignite HHO GAS mixed with a water mist. BOOOM! You better make sure compression is well planned because its going to be a lot of power. Obviously your water misters will have to be cleaned so that hard water doesn't clog them. 


OR


Take the crank electricity and DUH just run a magnet motor or amplifier and/or run an electric motor. Isn't the fastest car in the world an electric car? They are small engines and so powerful. OR Hook it/ or the turbine engine up as a plane engine. Crank power in your plane, generate HHO if you have water, Maybe plug in a atmospheric generator to run the instruments and cabin electronics. Combine 3 or 4 things and create some backup loops in case one system needs maintenance or refill.


Combine projects and you will start to naturally create standard measurements and can scale up or down. Then you will form friendships and common goals and your work will be compatible and efficiently complementing when you want it to be.  Open Source it to ambassadors all over the world and collect donations online. Keep it pure and you'll still be compensated. Build tons of systems with lots of volunteers teaming up and drop prototypes all over the world to wealthy ambassadors and distribute open source plans to people all over the world AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. That is THE KEY. At the same time so the wave can't be stopped. It would take the perfect balance of minds. Would take trust at the perfect times and would take Distrust at the perfect times. Once the first generation stuff spreads like wildfire through the world people could purchase plans, directions manuals, do it yourself kits, and you'd have affiliate accounts for suppliers etc.. for upgrades and stuff like that but the technology would still be free for people that want to just download the directions,get their own materials, and generate their own power for as CHEAP as they can.




How about a glider with foot crank + batteries running an HHO generator. Run an AWG off the AIR INTAKE pressure.  and now you have a pepertual water source with the weight of a small AWG without the weight of a limited water storage tank.


Hydrogen electric human hybrid car with driver startup crank and/or passenger crank + HHO electric generator into electric engine + loop incoming water from an AWG which is built into the air intake to replenish water tank without storage weight.





SO WHAT DO YOU SAY??! The hand is almost to the 12. New agendas go into effect and everything goes poof.  time is PRECIOUS and of the ESSENCE. Put down your ego and put your tunnel vision on time out long enough to put your brains and volts together in a circuit. With electricity we can run AWGs and have water. Then loop some water back into the dry cell.