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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

chessnyt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 19, 2012, 08:07:05 AM
Hi Chess,

I must admit I'd quite like to see some links.  Since Gravock isn't likely to provide this - would you oblige us?

I had a shrewd idea you were doing your own thing here.  Great stuff. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

@Rosemary:
I love all the great ideas coming forth from our discussion here.  Grav made an enormous contribution by suggesting a thread dedicated to the builders as this forum is #1 when it comes to builders.

Because Grav chose to drop out (for whatever reasons I really don't know and he certainly owes no explanation for) I will pick up the ball and take 2 weeks to attempt to locate at least 3 threads in which forum builders are making the most progress.  I can't promise anything except that I will give it my best shot.

My build is a very promising one and the Russians have just recently had their breakthrough as well in this exact same technology. I'm trying to keep this subject of mine limited to very few comments as this thread's subject matter is closer to market and thus serves EVERYONE who needs energy to get to work, power their houses and do their jobs.  As you well know, the monopolists have raised their prices once again in an attempt to ruin the economy for a second time and then buy up all the failed businesses and properties on the cheap.  It's a very well orchestrated scheme.


Warmest regards,

Chess

gravityblock

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 19, 2012, 07:41:52 AM
Dear Gravock,

This is exactly the sort of nonsense that mitigates against these forums as a platform for teaching anything at all.  I'll reserve my opinion on those so called unification heroes of yours - now that I've had a chance to read them.  Because I really don't want to be pulled into another public argument - euphemistically referred to as a 'debate'.  But I will say this.  I was sincerely impressed with the argument proposed by Frank Zdidarsic.  However it's also inconclusive and partial.  But nice.

Here's the link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25456609/Frank-Znidarsic-Control-of-Natural-Forces-leading-to-Cold-Fusion-and-Anti-Gravity

But really.  Are you proposing that we can easily generate positrons?  And are you then proposing that the bulb simply contains a 'mix' of electrons and positrons?  And that the flux then somehow organises itself that the two flux fields adjust to each other?  That they somehow comfortably flow past each other?  Are you aware of how impossibly difficult it is to even hold positrons in any stable condition at all?  They can barely be contained even when they're locked in an imposed magnetic field.  LOL.  If antimatter was that easily organised - we'd have been powering space shuttles with this from way back.  Antimatter is considerably less manageable than you seem to think.

I think that what the video is showing us is that flux has magnetic properties.  I've seen many such examples.  That example most certainly DOES NOT contain positrons. 

Gravock.  I am constantly in awe of young minds and high energy.  It's a heady mix.  And I'm inclined to forgive a great deal of excessive zeal - even when it's compounded with an equally excessive arrogance and an entire want of diplomacy.  But I assure you.  You cannot seriously be proposing that the video sample shown here has anything at all to do with positrons?  That's about as absurd as Poynty deciding that a battery can generate a negative current flow.  This isn't a simple error in math.  It's a profound departure from the standard model, and from fact. 

You need to rethink your argument if this represents its foundations.

Golly  :o

Regards,
Rosemary

EDITED.
Sorry guys.  I wrote Wilczek.  God knows why?  He's arguments are ridiculous.  But I like this one by Zdidarsic (spelling? something like that.) 
And for perfect clarity - here's the link that Gravock gave us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGtPKBXkVQ&feature=plcp&context=C3e6f0bbUDOEgsToPDskLDYRU-THhmlfe1RrBxFobx

Rosemary,

I agree with you, it does sound absurd.  You're actually arguing against yourself without realizing it.  You say there are dual charges making up current flow.  You call them "raw" charges instead of electrons.  Call them whatever you may like, but it won't change what it is.  We need to look at the electron and positron as being the same particle, a particle which has both a negative and a positive charge.  Physics has separated the two, when they are actually one.

Now an electron/positron, as a wave form, is moved in an (anti)clockwise circle. In this spiraloid movement it has a discontinuous wave surface rather like a spiral spring. The movement itself is not discontinuous, but only appears so by virtue of its spiraling movement. It also shows a magnetic phenomenon cancelling out the charge on one side which gives an observer the impression that the energy moves in jumps. Further, it is subject to the outcome of the difference of charge due to this magnetic effect, as well as the result of its rotation.  We can see this helical spiraloid movement of the particles in a cloud chamber.

If this particle has a clockwise movement, then the magnetic phenomenon cancels out the positive charge and we call it an electron.  However, if the particle has a counter clockwise movement, then the negative charge is cancelled and it becomes what we know as a positron.  If an electron moves to the left in a magnetic field, then a positron will move to the right in the same magnetic field.  The two currents are running against each other.  This is in agreement with Ed Leedskalnin (I'm not sure if this is the correct spelling, but I'm not taking the time to look it up). Since they're of opposite charges and moving in opposite directions, then they will produce the same current.  If the opposite charges moved in the same direction in a magnetic field, then the current would be canceled.  Today Physics claims that the Electron-Positron pair may annihilate at any Kinetic Energy.  The Electron as also the Positron must have an initial velocity of 0.62c and below this value, the pair cannot be annihilated, as can be seen in the below graph.  In the video, the magnet helps to further separate the two streams at distances greater than the repulsive coulomb forces.  When the magnet is positioned properly, then the stream of negative charges will be deflected towards the magnet (attraction), while the other stream of positive charges will be deflected away from the magnet (repulsion).  This helps us to see how the two streams are separated.  If the opposite pole of the magnet is used, then it will be vice-versa.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

The egg has the form of a chicken. The chicken is in the egg. The two are one. One did not come before the other, as the question wrongly implies. They came together, as one, and not separately. It's a bad question, because the question itself has separated the two when they actually came together and were one.  This chicken and egg analogy also applies to the electron-positron pairs.  They are one, and not separate. We need to ask the right questions in order to get the right answers. If not, then we are led down a path of paradoxes based on wrong assumptions. Questions based on wrong assumptions can create wrong answers which lead to paradoxes.

Where did most of the anti-matter in the universe go?  According to Xydous, most of the anti-matter is either at the center of the universe as a white hole (anti-black hole) or it's at the outer edges of the universe.  The rest of the anti-matter in the universe was captured by the aether.  In the end, I know what I'm saying will be proven correct.

Gravock
   
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: chessnyt on February 19, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
Because Grav chose to drop out (for whatever reasons I really don't know and he certainly owes no explanation for) I will pick up the ball and take 2 weeks to attempt to locate at least 3 threads in which forum builders are making the most progress.  I can't promise anything except that I will give it my best shot.

Show me one thread where somebody is using Dr. Stiffler's SEC as a Radio Frequency generator for LENR's.  I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone is doing this.  This, along with other critical and crucial information just isn't being applied by anyone as far as I am aware of.  The most they will be able to achieve in the direction they are currently moving in, is pulse generation.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Gwandau

gravock,

I read the "The secret of the Electron-Positron pair" by Ioannis Xydous, and found it very interesting.
His theory fits very nicely into my own view of the universe, were every known phenomenon, be it matter, light, electromagnetism or gravity,
is a wave interference response to an all encompassing single underlying field, or Aether if we want to use that old term.

If this is correct, there is nothing but the Aether, everything else is just a dynamic respons to the condition of this field.

Matter regarded as an inert piece of driftwood, being here just by its own means, is a stone-age point of view that we all have to discard if we are going to succeed.

As Ioannis Xydous puts it: "Space-Time is filled with the Aether and the Mass and Energy which appear in the material world are manifestations of Aether compression".

And if matter is merely standing waves, or as Ioannis Xydous prefer to call it, "manifestations of Aether compression", which is just different words
for the same phenomenon, then we will be able to access and influence any level of physical manifestation, given the right wave tool.
And we need a wave tool to overcome the Coloumb forces, since the key to everything in universe is wave oriented.

But since there is no RF-generator capable of producing wave lengths far down in the Planck scale, or a frequency high enough to come close to the values of
Aether compression, we are left with the secondary road, which is the one I am sure that Andrea Rossi has taken, namely The Road of Resonances.

Resonace is the very tool that will reach all the way down to the area of interest in calling forth the positrons to act upon the nickel electrons.
Resonance is the only known link between different energy levels, and its there we should look.

So as far as I am concerned, by pressurizing a stainless steel tube with 50 ATM of Hydrogen, containing the nano-nickel powder, heating it to 400 degrees Celsius,
and exposing it to a wide range of RF parameters, changing wavelength in small steps and scanning each with the whole frequency range available, we are bound to succeed
sooner or later.

The RF generator would have to be integrated with the heater surrounding the reactor, and be able to generate up to 300 MHz frequencies.
These experiments will be extremely dangerous to perform without proper safety precautions, and the preparations of the steel tube has to be made in a hydrogen atmosphere.
Another ingredient, that NASA have mentioned, is catalytic carbon. Maybe this is one of the parameters Andrea Rossi is hiding.

Just the fact that 58 g nickel, theoretically will generate the same amount of energy obtained by burning about 30,000 tons of oil makes one inspired to
experiment with this reaction.

A local friend of me has already started to construct a safe hydrogen work box with gloves,so I don't seem to have any choice but participate in the experiment.

Gwandau

gravityblock

Quote from: Gwandau on February 19, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
gravock,

The RF generator would have to be integrated with the heater surrounding the reactor, and be able to generate up to 300 MHz frequencies.

Dr. Stiffler's SEC generates a broadband of frequencies from 500 - 1 Mhz in decrements of 1.094 Mhz when properly tuned.  The 1094000 hertz (1.094 Mhz) is related to Znidarsics quantum transitional velocity of 1094000 m/s.

How does the SEC achieve this?  A photon oscillating in/out or inside of an electric field will be continuously decreasing in frequency and momentum until the moment of entropy is reached (In the SEC, the frequencies will decrement from 500 Mhz down to 1 Mhz in multiples of 1.094 Mhz).  We don't need it to go all the way to entropy.  We just need to decrease the frequency of the photons enough so the electrons-positrons will gain enough acceleration and momentum to overcome the repulsive coulomb forces.  A broadband of frequencies from 500 Mhz - 1 Mhz is more than efficient for our purposes.  In each successive decrement in the frequency of the photon, then the charges (electrons and/or positrons) will gain acceleration and momentum.  When the Electron as also the Positron accelerate to an initial velocity of 0.62c the pair will be annihilated generating excess heat.  The E/M wave's velocity decreases in jumps of 1,094,000 m/s while it's frequency will also decrement in jumps of 1,094,000 hertz.  Once the electrons-positrons obtain the necessary acceleration and momentum they will overcome the coulomb forces, collide and annihilate each other generating excess heat. It's a self-feeding process which requires no additional input once the process is initiated.

Gravock.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.