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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

sparks

Quote from: Qwert on July 13, 2012, 10:52:23 AM
That's all truth. But, who is responsible for giving us our consciousness? Yet each single human being has different wit. It's pretty old knowledge that the civilization is self-destroying. And the culprit is one: our cosciousness; still not the top quality, still found only in religious and New Age movement. People are not perfect. But this is the choice of THE CREATOR.

On Don Smith's site there is (was) a story of an experiment with monkeys and their consciousness. I find it nicely explained how the community (maybe even global) consciousness work. But I can't find this site and the story anymore.

       The first step in awareness is to contemplate exactly what we are.  Our physical beings can best be described as walking talking intestines designed by nature to create soil fertilization.  Somewhere along the line we developed into chemical computers.  Unfortunately the lack of imagination and selfawareness of the people who spawned the industrial age leaves their great great grandchildren on the brink of extinction.  There were many who saw this time coming but the cruel slavemasters who seized control and created the industrial age could care less.  They are a  species who jumped off the evolutiionary train  to higher orders of consiousness a long long time ago. I doubt these people have access to any higher levels of consiousness because they haven't evolved enough brain mass to body weight to allow higher reasoning skills necessary to achieve simple self-awareness.
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@Everyone:
A new article just published titled "Rossi on Domestic E-Cats (Home Depot Still Involved)" reveals some new details regarding distribution:

"Our goal is to bring it to Home Depot in the United States. We already have contacts, and they are waiting for the certification to be done. But, we will sell it through the Home Depot chain."

The full article can be found here:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/07/rossi-on-domestic-e-cats-home-depot-still-involved/

Chess

Gwandau

sparks and Qwert,

Nothing really is wrong.

Mankind just is in its childhood phase.

I bet primitive industrial ages like the present human one are quite commonly represented in our universe,
even if there of course also are other choices of direction done, consciously avoiding the technological road due to
a deeper understanding of the dynamics of our existence.

But we humans lack that type of unison conceptual depth and coherence needed for a global evolution into non-ego consciousness.

Thus are we stuck with the far more gross and uncertain evolutionary alternative, just like the route inevitably taken by
many other non prime species in the galactic family.

I say it agin, nothing is really wrong, this is simply how we are due to the nature of the human mind.

Most certainly "A hard rain is gonna fall", and our road will be rough, really rough at times, and maybe we won't make it this time either.

But remember one thing, this is not the first time.

And not the last.

Gwandau

MileHigh

Gwandau:

Take a look at this Rossi quote, myself and Rossi agree about the unlikelihood of seeing E-Cats for domestic electricity production for the foreseeable future:

http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_2/

QuoteFES: Moving forward do you envision a day where you will be not only able to heat your home with an E-Cat, but in addition to that, get electricity from the E-Cat as well?

AR: You know the electricity issue is bound to the temperature that we are able to bring to the wall of the reactor, to have good efficiency. So, it will be very difficult to make this in the domestic apparatuses because it is very complex and when the reactor reaches certain temperatures. I also think that the certification will be very difficult, honestly. And, while we already are ready to make electricity in the industrial plant, because in these days, we are making very thorough tests, with very high temperature reactors which will be able to produce steam at very high temperatures obtaining very good performances in terms of efficiency. Therefore, it will be absolutely possible in a short term, but we make electricity by means of industrial plants, while to make electricity with a domestic client is a long shot, because there is a long road map.
First of all we need the certification done for the heating systems. Then, we will design how to make electricity, which will be also complicated technologically. Because you know, to make electricity, you need a turbine to have a good efficiency. You have to go to very high temperatures, at least. You need a condenser. And you know, to put all this in a house, I think that is very, very, very difficult at the moment, honestly.

The problems are two-fold, technology and economics.  Although the technology exists, turbines and condensers and transmissions and generators, it doesn't exist in a "nice neat package."  That is only arrived at by successive generations/iterations of design.   And it's too expensive to be cost-competitive with other "life solutions" for getting your electricity.   So for the foreseeable future at least, there aren't going to be many jet turbines in the basements of people's houses.

That's not to say it can't happen, no one really knows how far out the "foreseeable future" is.

Here is an example:  In the mid-Eighties the computer industry was just as dynamic as it is now and growing very fast.   In 1988 you could have made something like an iPad, it was perfectly feasible technically.  The only problem is relative to 1988, an iPad would require a full server room full of computers and an ultra-exotic very expensive high-resolution touch display.   You could have made an iPad in 1988 but it would have cost millions of dollars and taken up a large computer server room, toilet plunger and all.

So the E-Cat is like an iPad made in 1988 right now, if the technology gets vetted.  Who knows what it will be like in 25 years from now if the technology evolves with the times.

MileHigh

Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on July 14, 2012, 08:40:45 PM


Here is an example:  In the mid-Eighties the computer industry was just as dynamic as it is now and growing very fast.   In 1988 you could have made something like an iPad, it was perfectly feasible technically.  The only problem is relative to 1988, an iPad would require a full server room full of computers and an ultra-exotic very expensive high-resolution touch display.   You could have made an iPad in 1988 but it would have cost millions of dollars and taken up a large computer server room, toilet plunger and all.

So the E-Cat is like an iPad made in 1988 right now, if the technology gets vetted.  Who knows what it will be like in 25 years from now if the technology evolves with the times.

MileHigh


Na, they didnt have the processor speed, memory(speed and size, display tech, nor the battery technology. Let alone the industrialization in micro electronics. Do you remember the size of the first cell phones?     Touch screen has been around for a while.

But I would say that maybe you have it backwards when it comes to developing turbines. That has been going on, heck, Tesla worked with it. lol  Wind mills and water wheels, how far does that go back.

It used to be $3500 for a tubo in a honda civic, now you can gettum fer $100 or less, and they work. If you beat on them and abuse them, well...

How about this then. Instead of heating water, why not integrate the ecat with a sterling engine to run a gen. No big noises like a steam engine.

The main point is if the ecat can produce a lot out with less in. How we use that is not only restricted to heating chicken coops, as you once posted. How degrading is that.


Mags