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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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Peanutbutter29

Lol @ homework.  In all honesty, I was very poor at homework (tried to do all at school, otherwise eh).  For me, I found, I need to be interested in something;  then....I go nuts, so to speak.  I can only imagine it being related to (AS) asperger's, but not totally sure.

On the cell that did 5-10 amps, was intermittent and also the bichromate cell.  From the book, "In the sulphuric acid is dissolved some bichromate of potassium or sodium, the function of which is to unite chemically with the hydrogen as fast as it is formed at the positive plate, thus preventing its' accumulation upon this plate"..."Since however, the chromic acid formed by the union of the sulphuric acid and with the bichromate attacks the zinc even when the circuit is open, it is necessary to lift the zinc from the liquid by rod A"

They were using the Chromate to augment a higher current output without polarizing "technically" the fluid.  E.G- without the chromate to bond with the H, gasses would be produced.
(this is similar to how Al2SO4 is produced in the equation, for the epsom, water, Al C a page back or so. The sulfate ions bonded to the released H2 from electrolysis preventing some gas release.  This sulfuric formed is short lived as it immediately (from forming at Al) reacts with and reduced the Al2SO4.  Here, of course, not augmenting current;  but rather creating a "favorable reaction")

Otherwise though, Sulfuric acid is a pretty good oxidizer and used quite often early.  In, general, a lot of metals will combine with sulfates or reduce "their own" metal for replacement of another.  So, it was / is a good medium for an oxidation / reduction reaction.  Plus it has good conductivity for ion movement.

Specifically with the idea of sulfuric and sodium sulfate, that could also be separated by a ceramic material (porous) to prevent formation of the bisulfate;  or to have them interact separately with 2 metals.   Otherwise might have to look at metal reactions of the bisulfate to see if anything reacts favorably.

Note: From reading.  2 strong acids = a strong acid.  1 strong and 1 weak = a weak acid.  2 weak acid = a weak acid. 
So, sulfuric is strong but sodium sulfate is weak;  so then the bisulfate must be weak also.  That means it could be good to "slow down" a reaction relative to sulfuric.  Or could be bad, preventing a reaction from weak strength;  or non-favorable metal interaction (e.g. CO2, H2, gasses, etc)

Hope this helps
Thanks

PS - Al C, still shorted.  61hrs - .195ma (30.3maH recovered)

NOTE to Phi...  I would estimate the C rating for this Al C Epsom reaction at about 2ma.  I would recommend then, a maximum charging current of .2ma (200ua).  Most of the adjustable current peak chargers have a minimum of 100ma output (found one @50ma), so it may be best to use a dc supply for charging and note voltage for peak. 
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-1-14C-Peak-Charger-LCD/dp/B0006O5ALO    Peak charger with 50ma minimum. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HY1803D-VARIABLE-DC-POWER-SUPPLY-/190658948118?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6428ac16  Same DC supply as I use. can show 10ma on scale.  So need to use a voltmeter to dial 200ua. 

triffid

I put together another 12 cells with magnesium strips.ten of the cells have copper and two cells have pencil lead as the other electrode.They all have a double shot of epsom salts and both vitamin Cs that I had.I did one cell with double magnesium(2 strips).I have a lot of empty glue bottles sitting around me now.Thanks PB for your quick reply.My first coil of copper wire is gone(25 feet).I did buy another coil of it so I'm not without.My coil of magnesium ribbon is 3/4 ths gone.Im still working on my first container of mortons salt sub 1/2 gone.Likewise first box of epsom salts.I have two 50 feet coils of aluminum wire.I do have more magnesium ribbon on its way to me.42 feet of it.triffid




My cells also contain citric acid.So fumaric acid,ascorbic acid,stearic acid,its buffer and citric acid are in these last 12 cells.


Four dry acids alltogether.


And silica.

triffid

PB,With your drive you should look into why silica repels other forms of matter.Maybe with what you could figure out we could have floating cars within five years?triffid

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