Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[triffid]

So to quote you PB,
So, Zambonis' final design (for the bell and clock) was actually CHARGING the Tin / Zinc sulfate interaction to produce Tin sulfate (similarly to AL MgSO4 earlier).   Meaning, as he stated; if left to sit;  would regain partial power.  Eg.  In operation (from what we know now) the cell was providing power from Tin and Mn;  but also charging from Zinc to Tin.  When you disconnect the circuit.  Tin sulfate will reduce to Zinc sulfate, thus charging the primary Tin / MnO2 cell.   Thus Zamboni ALSO invented the first rechargeable cells;  OMW!!(Proof for this is with the university to house his perpetual clock.  Started, 90 beats....after 100 years slowed to 45 beats.   It was disconnected and later started again producing 60 beats!)

[triffid]

PB,I do think you made internet history!!!


You said: Sorry to ramble as usual, but I figured I might as well point out things, being in weird mood.  I believe this to be the first recording of the correct assembly of zamboni's cells on the net so far.  But hey, i hope it helps someone with ideas;  and It saves others a lot of time trying to translate all his works.

[triffid]

That 3.24 volts I got from my four cells hooked up in series was read after being disconnected from an led that had been running all night.As it is the nature of these cells I came back several hours(with no load on the batteries) later to check the voltage.It was over 4.5 volts but quickly dropped.triffid

[PhiChaser]

Left a couple cells from a large mix hooked up to one 6v per cell. I left them hooked up for 6-8 hrs yesterday. Baseline cells read a little over half a volt, these two charged up to 2.7+ but dropped quickly to 2.2v (this is all last night stuff...). I took some readings and got the cells below 1.8v but they climbed back up to over 2 volts (then fell again of course...). I took some readings every once in a while (yeah, I know, real scientific...) and this morning. The cells are reading around 1.5v this AM; The loss of voltage looks like 0.10v loss per every 2-3 hours (+/-?)without a load on them.
I need to get a few of these cells covered in wax today. I will try melting some wax (I think I will use half an aluminum can sitting inside an old pot) and dipping some cells from the last batch I made (8 cells with the same mix using fully dissolved epsom).
I will also check the cells in my 'ratio' experiment to see if any of the cells are holding a noticeably larger voltage. None have been hooked up to batteries since yesterday. Again, not very scientific but I'm not anticipating any real voltage differences regardless of the epsom to Durham's ratio. Have a great weekend everyone!
I need more coffee and to dig up some tea candles...

Happy experimenting,
PC

EDIT: My Saturday morning (pictures).
I melted one broken up 'plumber' candle in an aluminum can that was sitting in near-boiling water. I dipped six cells, all of them got at least four 'dips', one got about a dozen. Nice thing about the wax, you can see through it so I didn't have to re-date the cells... Oh yes, melted wax is MESSY so... Yeah. I didn't do too badly LOL!!
I set them on wax paper after dipping to cool.
I have two (mostly) identical cells each hooked up to their own 6v battery now. Voltage retention tests coming for those two, will post results... I'm hoping the wax keeps those volts in there!! Will find out later eh?
Seriously considering using the rest of the wax in that aluminum can to see if epsom salt will work imbedded in wax (my bet is 'no'). I don't like the sharp edges but all I need to do is re-melt it, pour in some powdered epsom, and stick a piece of carbon into the mix... Hmmm...

[triffid]

I bought some alum to start playing with.Sauer's brand,granulated.I will use it to try to protect the magnesium strips that I will use in my next cells.triffid










Here is a quick video on how a joule thief works and why.I had posted it before.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlOwf6KnkhY&feature=related