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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid

http://exxos.www.idnet.com/IMPULSE/battery/battery.htm   same article on making the chemalloy battery ,but some guy says the 130mAs must have been in error and maybe it should read .130mAs.He does his own experiment with a steel bolt and a carbon rod.He reports on his low power results at the bottom of the page.I don't have a chemalloy rod handy or I could do a quick test.He did test the same electrolyte.

mscoffman

Quote from: triffid on May 13, 2012, 07:53:16 AM
http://exxos.www.idnet.com/IMPULSE/battery/battery.htm   same article on making the chemalloy battery ,but some guy says the 130mAs must have been in error and maybe it should read .130mAs.He does his own experiment with a steel bolt and a carbon rod.He reports on his low power results at the bottom of the page.I don't have a chemalloy rod handy or I could do a quick test.He did test the same electrolyte.

../IMPULSE/battery/battery.html

...Instrumentation error in above video....no meter reads accurate on amps scale without
an external load resistor being present. All meters are designed to measure current flow
*through user supplied load resistor*. Also a specific load resistance will not show the
maximum capability of a power supply, you must scan a range of resistances then calculate
the maximum of [volts times amps] at a number of resistance setpoints then find the
maximum value. So maximum *power* reading from any power supply or amplifier is an
optimization procedure unless you have a very specialised instrument or admit to the
device having a constant known "internal output impedance".

People making this error are newbies and should not be trusted.

:S:MarkSCoffman

triffid

I made 6 more crystal cells today using dandelion leaf and the six magnesium strips that I used borax to protect.They are a black color(magnesium borate?)Can't be an oxide here. So now Im waiting for them to dry.triffid

triffid

Thanks  :S:MarkSCoffman,A bunch of us need to go to class on how to read our meters.I would go too.I was really wanting to use chemalloy as an electrode.But now I am not so sure.I do think my meter acts as a load when I read for amps.I wait until it drops(amps) as low as they are going to go after a minute or two.Then switch back to volts only to find out that they have dropped and watch them climb back up.So I try to read volts first,then amps with my meter.triffid

PhiChaser

The latest meter I have been using is an analog DC watt meter that goes up to 2 milliwats. It is an old DB meter but seems to read more 'true' on the actual 'power' that I am getting with my DMM (which I always mistakenly call a VOM...) set on 'volts' or using an analog micro/milliammeter gauge (without the resistor).
Today I hooked up a couple older analog meters and they seemed to work well. The resistors are in the four position multi-switch that came with them (I got them a couple months ago) so I need to build a box and get some connectors to turn it into more of a test rig. Also played around with the FG and my scope... Busy Mom's day...
No new cells this weekend, maybe this week sometime.

Happy experimenting,
PC