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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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NickZ

   @ Stephan and All:
    Thank you for your reply.  I have already done something similar to what you are mentioning concerning the briquettes.  I take the carbon from the beach wood fires, that conducts well, and use that. It has already been well burnt to coals on the outside and the inside has also been carbonized.  It works ok, but I'll still look for the graphite powder to combine with it, as well as any other item that might be added to help raise the output.
   If there is any air available to the cells, electrolysis action will still create water, and also oxidation of any metals used. But, just like a diode can produce an output without the galvanics action, or the hydrogen that gets converted to water in the cells, I am trying to achieve a similar effect with these cells.  I don't know if it is possible or not, but I'm aiming to find out.
   I think that the semiconductor treatment may be the answer to the aluminum or magnesium corrosion problem, at least I hope so.  The carbon pencil leads have already been proven to provide very good output when used as anodes, but without the use of the carbon (or salts as the electrolyte) they do not produce anything at all, as they will short out between both poles, killing the dipole effect. Not so with carbon as the electrolyte.
  Carbon/Carbon cells although will still work to a degree, will not produce enough output comparatively, to make them worth the effort. The best electro-negative combination is Carbon/Magnesium. So, we really should stick with that...  as the real cause of this voltage and current, is found in the difference of the voltage potentials of the two different materials. The implementation and use of the semiconductor idea with these cells, may also help improve those results dramatically. Not just with the control of the oxidation factor, but possibly providing for a much higher output as well. 
                                                                                                                     NickZ
   

jbignes5

Quote from: NickZ on November 28, 2011, 06:10:13 PM
   @ Stephan and All:
    Thank you for your reply.  I have already done something similar to what you are mentioning concerning the briquettes.  I take the carbon from the beach wood fires, that conducts well, and use that. It has already been well burnt to coals on the outside and the inside has also been carbonized.  It works ok, but I'll still look for the graphite powder to combine with it, as well as any other item that might be added to help raise the output.
   If there is any air available to the cells, electrolysis action will still create water, and also oxidation of any metals used. But, just like a diode can produce an output without the galvanics action, or the hydrogen that gets converted to water in the cells, I am trying to achieve a similar effect with these cells.  I don't know if it is possible or not, but I'm aiming to find out.
   I think that the semiconductor treatment may be the answer to the aluminum or magnesium corrosion problem, at least I hope so.  The carbon pencil leads have already been proven to provide very good output when used as anodes, but without the use of the carbon (or salts as the electrolyte) they do not produce anything at all, as they will short out between both poles, killing the dipole effect. Not so with carbon as the electrolyte.
  Carbon/Carbon cells although will still work to a degree, will not produce enough output comparatively, to make them worth the effort. The best electro-negative combination is Carbon/Magnesium. So, we really should stick with that...  as the real cause of this voltage and current, is found in the difference of the voltage potentials of the two different materials. The implementation and use of the semiconductor idea with these cells, may also help improve those results dramatically. Not just with the control of the oxidation factor, but possibly providing for a much higher output as well. 
                                                                                                                     NickZ

Now you are seeing it like I said. You might want to go the route of the anti water nano glass beads! They repel water pretty good. But I think the process is much higher in cost. Glass would form a layer like a layden jar and that might do the trick. Induction would be the only way to pass energy and that only takes a voltage potential like the metal difference you talk about. What have you done with the sand, do you mix it together in the carbon blending the two or layer it?

jbignes5

 I wanted to see the wave forms that these diodes are converting. To my surprise I found an ac voltage that exactly doubled the whole potential of these batteries across the terminals. Could someone confirm this?

NickZ

    I use only these items to make my cells: wood carbon and aluminum capacitor cans, and carbon rods or pencil leads as the anodes,  but no sand.
    I had used beach sand to make the original cement cell bank, only. Which are still working, and still outputting over a volt each cell. They have been a long running cell, but have lost 1/2 their mA levels, due to oxydation.
   I really want to stay away from the use of salts, but if we find that a much higher output can be obtained, and that the salt electrolyte can be sealed to allow no water to contaminate the cell, I may give that a try.  If I can locate the Epsom, salt sub, etz...  I'm still waiting to see the long term results that JB, Jim, B-rads and others are coming up with.
   

jbignes5

Quote from: NickZ on November 29, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
    I use only these items to make my cells: wood carbon and aluminum capacitor cans, and carbon rods or pencil leads as the anodes,  but no sand.
    I had used beach sand to make the original cement cell bank, only. Which are still working, and still outputting over a volt each cell. They have been a long running cell, but have lost 1/2 their mA levels, due to oxydation.
   I really want to stay away from the use of salts, but if we find that a much higher output can be obtained, and that the salt electrolyte can be sealed to allow no water to contaminate the cell, I may give that a try.  If I can locate the Epsom, salt sub, etz...  I'm still waiting to see the long term results that JB, Jim, B-rads and others are coming up with.



Try to stay away from salts with huge amounts of water in them like epsoms salts. I would stay with the piezoelectric crystals.