Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

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This guy built about 8 or 9 cells and shows his results.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83le8v0Aeqo
triffid

This video is a John Hutchinson replication. This cell is not what it seems, it absorbs water like crazy and quickly corrodes the metals. This cell is not useful and very destructive. Either John Hutchinson is not giving us the right formula or he's a fraud.

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Here this guy gets 1.9 volts and enough amps to run a 1.7 volt 2 milliamp led from radio shack.Using only melted epson salts,copper and magnesium.   http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetman2010#p/f/2/J9CM33618Ww  triffid

This video is of John Bedini show off a Epsom salt cell. This cell only works when the Epsom salt is heated, once heated the Epsom salt will release water from its lattice and thus the cell starts to work. Once the Water retreats back into the lattice the cell does not work and you must reheat it to get voltage.

[ibpointless2]

This guy explains a little on his cement batteries.   http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetman2010#p/f/4/FVB3DzPLaRg  What I don't understand is there is a thin layer of plastic on the inside of these cans.That would make it non conductive.Do you guys burn it off or does the cement dissolve it somehow in the curing? triffid

This video is of Lidmotor, he's a great replicator. This video was done last year and those cement cells are dead for the most part, some still give a volt but with no amps at all. Triffid if you're able to I would recommend making a cement cells, they're great learning cells to play with and cheap too. Just add water to the cement and stick your electrodes in and let it dry. You can experiment with different things to add to the cement cell too. But the bad news is that it takes months and even years for the cement cells to dry so over time they will die out due to lack of water in the cement, but they're fun cells to make. Lidmotor used a coke can but he sand-papered the inside down to expose the aluminum under the plastic coating of the can. I would not use a coke can if your electrodes are small, I used small plastic cups with copper and magnesium sticking out from it. I highly recommend making a cement cell they're fun and I still have a copper and aluminum one that still gives me a volt and its over a year old but it has almost no amps to it.

[ibpointless2]

Triffid,


I don't understand why the crystal glue cell is not working for you. You should be getting anywhere from 1.3 volts to 1.5 volts on  a dry cell. If you're not getting this then some thing is wrong with the material you used. Due to the high resistance of the cells you won't be able to put no more than 5 in series before you start to loose voltage. The best bet is to put 5 in series than 5 in parallel. These cells won't be able to charge a 12 volt battery, they're made to power low power things. It is true you can scale up and use bigger metal and more electrolyte and you could power a 12 volt battery but we have not made it that far yet.


The best thing I can think to help you is if you put the crystal glue cells aside and make a few cement cells. Cement cells are easy to make, just add water to the cement and insert electrodes into it and let dry. Once you made one you can start to add different things to the cement like epsom salt and other crystals to see what crystal affect it and gives you the most power. The cement cells can more easily put in series and they contain some of the ingredients  like Sodium silicate that is said to be used in the Marcus Reid cells.

[NickZ]

  triffid and anyone interested:
   If you are going to make some cement cells, I would use the taller soda or beer cans.
I use washed beach sand with a fairly dry mix of cement, and pack it into the sanded aluminum can (sand the inside first couple of inches or more), and press the mix as tight as possible, and remove any excess water.  Place an insulator (plastic) into the bottom of the cans. I also use the inverted copper spiral as shown in the picture. The more copper the more juice it puts out, as the inverted spiral shape allows me to get almost 70mA from each cell.  These cell can be placed in series, but not in parallel.  If you just stick a copper tube or wire into the cell as the positive pole, you will not get much power, and it will fade quickly, like most people have noticed with their cells.
  Big aluminum capacitor cans work better than the thin aluminum soda cans.
Use as little water as possible, and don't try to additionally bump charge the cell once it is made.  Make 4 cells and connect them in series to get at 4 to 5 volts out of them.
   NickZ