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[triffid]

I have a good friend in oklahoma whose motto was" take junk and make it work"! When I was training to be a chemist in college we were taught to try to find the cheapest way to do something.I try to use aluminum foil,tin can lids(cant use all of them).The magnesium metal strips I had to buy.The mortons salt sub I had to go 30 miles out of my way to buy that.That made my cells work.So potassium chloride by itself will not work.It takes fumaric acid (most likely about 1 percent)If I had to guess and I am guessing.So maybe two percent fumaric acid will double the power???triffid

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So I do not confuse anybody the fumaric acid is already inside the morton salt sub.So if you buy the morton salt sub.You are getting the fumaric acid too.triffid

[triffid]

My table salt cell is still producing .6 volts 24 hours later.So is the cell with asprin in it.The boric acid cell is producing  only .5 volts at this time.So it looks like the boric acid has a slight negative effect at this time.I have the same four cells hooked up in series powering the same LED since last night.These are the tin can lid /mg cells from the second panel I put together.I decided to put my third panel into a box for easy display.Since I think the jar I had picked out is not big enough.I went to radio shack today and bought an assortment of electrolytic capacitors(20) for about $5.00.triffid

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I plan to see how charging up some small capacitors turn out.triffid

[PhiChaser]

Lots of things to test out it sounds like!
I got some epsom salt yesterday (pretty cheap stuff!) and gave it a little water to see what it does. So far not as much voltage as the Morton's salt substitute.
The potassium chloride fumaric acid (salt sub) and water seems like it gives a steady 0.9v, not much water left in it.
I was thinking about making a couple glue batteries only using elmers wood putty instead of glue all. It dries hard and can be shaped easily... Copper wire inside my carbon tubes conducted just as well as the carbon so I'm thinking the Al will be the challenge (but not as challenging as trying to prevent Mg from corroding!)...
I agree Nick, the aluminum needs to be treated somehow. If carbon and aluminum corrode less than Mg and Cu then it seems like a good direction to go. I really like the idea of impregnating paper or cardboard with electrolyte. Maybe it will help the crystal structure somehow? I think porosity might be important here, like paper towels work better than typing paper? Maybe try gauze?
Anyone have any fumaric acid laying around to try and see if you can get higher voltages from potassium chloride?!? Seems logical that it would do 'something' anyways...
The borax mixture I made a little of a few days ago is still VERY wet. Wow, that water softener is insane...
Another one of those 'pinch' or 'dash' type things maybe (like the fumaric acid).
I wonder if fruit acids will work?
Gotta dash, have fun, thanks for the comments!!
PC