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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid

I took another reading of the six vitamin C cells hooked up in series and got 7.37 volts and 2.01 milliamps .If I did my calculations correctly it gives me about 14.8 watts of power.So the vitamin C cells have nearly double the power of the aspirin cells.triffid

jbignes5

Quote from: PhiChaser on February 16, 2012, 11:57:25 PM
@ Jbignes5
Thanks for the post! (I keep forgetting to get crystalized alum...)
Do you know if there are any adverse reactions/outgassings when adding voltage directly to alum?
PC
EDIT: So our ultimate 'dry' cell is actually very 'wet' inside the crystalline structure. It looks like alum will work as well or maybe better than epsom salt? Some ideal combination we're after??




You are welcome about the post. It's just my understanding as I know it.


You are very correct about the cells structure. In fact if you look that the abilities of crystals one would know that water was at the heart of it. Not regular water but highly organized water that can channel vast amounts of real charges through the device. All crystalline water is, is water without very much impurities. What water truely is! Crystalline in form and structure. When oxygen and other impurities get involved then you have a problem of over saturation and a reduced cap[ability to conduct.


The process is simple really. mix the crystals add you dopants and heat to melt the structure of the crystals and walla new crystal formations. These new formations are network based and the epsom salts donates both it's structure and crystalline water to the mix. Since alum has very little water the new structures borrows both water and structures from the epsom salts. The real problem is how do we make it not accept oxygen. We want this to have zero oxygen or very very little so that it doesn't saturate the device.


I haven't done a study yet microscopically of the structures yet because I want to get one of those computer microscopes so I can do detailed reports of the structures and how they form. MY suspicions are that the new crystals form due to voltage stresses as they grow. That means the unit should be controlled electrically as the crystals form. This would be a growing/conditioning phase and we should be able to control the atmosphere as it grows as well. once the structures are fully formed the water will be protected from the oxygen to a degree and not be able to oxidize it or the electrodes once it is fully formed.


My one experiment used aluminum carbon and alum with borax trown in to protects the aluminum. The results were extremely revealing. The new crystals were very elongated and needle like. and this is where the power is coming from. As they grow the surface area changes and the cell looks to be gaining in it's capabilities to power loads. This cell was open to the air and I think thats what killed it eventually because the borax could not protect the aluminum enough. But the mass of crystals looked very very interesting. clumps of needle like crystals forming on good spots that had enough protection where as the few spots that galvanic's took over had very little in the way of the new crystals. Like I said I need a microscope to show you the structures. They were very neat looking. Also certain portions that galvanics ruled had aluminum integrated into the crystal structures. and I believe the thin needle like crystals were of alum and carbon donations.




NickZ

   PhiChaser and All:
   If you try to charge the cells with another battery, you will destroy the cells.  They will not charge up like regular rechargeable batteries do, even thought some cells will take a charge. it will cause them to fail prematurely due to electrolysis.  This has been tried before. You can polarize the cell for a couple of seconds (less than 30 seconds),  but not minutes, or hours), as that is not the same as charging them.   
   Although cement cells are easy to make, cheap, and can last a while, they have very high impedance. What this means is that even though the cells will start out fine, they will lose their output when connected to a load very quickly, and should therefore be used with oscillators circuits instead of a direct connection to the leds.
Don't add any salts to cement cells, as it will dissolve the aluminum. Carbon may help, though I haven't tried it.
   Here are a few pics of my cement cells, and just one of my cement cell banks. Using the thick copper inverted spiral coils are the way that I was able to get 1.250 volts, and 65mA (that's milli amps, not microamps), from each large cell.  Large capacitor cans work best for the cement cells. These type of cells will not connect up in parallel, only in series.   If you have questions about them, just let me know.  I did a lot of experiments with these cells, and worked with them for a while. They are now over a year old and still producing output, although with much less current than when they were first newly made.

NickZ

  Forgot to include the picture of the cement cell bank:


triffid

I took some measurements today of each panel of six cells
1.) vitamin C cells 8.34 volts and 1.82 milliamps = 15.17 watts of power per hour
2.) aspirin cells 8.05 volts and .40 milliamps    =3.22 watts per hour
Add up the watts and I get 18.39 watts per hour
In seven days these 12 cells will have generated 3,089.52 watts or 3 kilowatts.
When I build the other 18 cell panel with vitamin C that will add on another7,650.11watts per week


So I will be generating about 10 kilowatts per week from the vacuum.
I already am getting about three kilowatts per week.
All of this power is going to my head.
triffid