Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[ibpointless2]

Hello all! This is my first post here on these forums. I hope I can add something useful to the discussion.

I am a musician and recently started teaching myself basic electronics and electric theory via the internet. In my online studies I ran across this project on youtube and it really caught my eye. I have a few thoughts that might spark an idea in someone with a much greater understanding of these concepts than myself.

Has anyone tested the solar potential of these crystal cells? My thought is that an anthocyanin and titanium dioxide such as is found in solar panels in addition to light bouncing around inside an already inherently electrical crystal structure might be fairly powerful if correctly combined.

According to Wikipedia:

"In ceramic glazes titanium dioxide acts as an opacifier and seeds crystal formation."

Just thought I'd throw that out there in case it's somehow useful. I'll be quiet now leave the advanced stuff to the people who know what they're talking about.

Welcome to the forum! 


Yes, seeing if a cell responds to light is always on the top of the list to try. A metal-oxide layer can make a cell respond to light, here's a video of someone doing just that. [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Edw99PgzQ[/size]

[jbignes5]

I think that the electrode surface areas and thicknesses would be more important than material mass. Maybe there is an ideal weight ratio though? Layers of foils packed in-between oiled paper in a (glass?) tube. Or in a paper towel roll, or something... How thick is a layer of zinc paint? Would pressure bring higher current/voltage readings like we are finding in some of our experiments I wonder...
The additive voltage idea shouldn't be hard to test right? Who' wants to build a Zamboni pile first? Or has one of you already started??
PC

I think maybe Tesla was right. if we understand that masses have a certain value of charge. Now take the same mass but inflate it to have a greater surface area and it displaces more of the medium, ie has more value. I read it somewhere before in Tesla's writing. He believed that with equal masses to same electrodes, one with a bigger surface area will have more charge. The resonance Tesla was talking about wasn't a frequency thing it was more of a mass thing and surface area.


Take this example for instance. 14 gauge wire and 30 gauge wire, With equal weight we get two different results when a field is exposed to the same masses. What has changed is the surface area each presents to the field. With the heavier gauge wire you get lower voltage but higher current. With the 30 gauge you get higher voltage and lower amps. All of this with the same weight of mass.. Surface area is the key and balanced masses is another key. The balanced mass is the resonance he was talking about.


I hope that helps..

[PhiChaser]

I made a couple new cells today (Durham's and epsom salt) but couldn't test them because the battery died on my VOM (LMAO!!!). So I consoled myself by purchasing three caps online (ebay) for a buck a piece (minus shipping which isn't too bad).
So maybe these will come in handy?
10,000 uf 25v
18,00uf 19v
25,000uf 6v
They look pretty good sized and were low voltage. Vintage GE
Anyhow, happy experimenting all!
PC

[jbignes5]

I should be starting the Zamboni pile soon. My first attempt will be a small scale test. I think I understand the process enough to get it working. It is designed to pull the charges trough the disks via induction.


I'll post more soon...

[jbignes5]

 Nickz I wanted to quote John B. from the other board if that is ok. I just think this might help you to defend your position.


"Your right it's boring to go over this here.
In most cases , light can be considered moving instantaneously, the finite speed of light has noticeable effects. Is the universe moving or is it standing still? Nick, I understand what your trying to say but is there any good answer for you that you would except, except I'm moving around the source."

In most cases? In all cases if you understand the phenomena of light propagation you know there is a medium out there that light "Travels" through. The only time light travels is when the potential is so intense at that frequency that it causes the medium we float in to polarize. This is an alignment of the medium and yes is near infinite in speed. It is near instant because the polarization moves one time trough the medium to align up and that is all the movement of light does. It doesn't flow in the traditional sense.



Let me give you an example.


If we understand we are in the medium the only movement that the conductors have to move is laterally to the plane of the source of the light. Picture a circle. Now draw a point from the center to some point out of the circle. In order for the light to travel the medium itself moves. This movement is polarization and it acts like a zipper. The only real movement is the medium aligning to the previous mediums movement. The light hasn't changed in one way but the medium has changed.


The medium is the part we are ignoring. No medium and there is no light, no radiant energy. Nothing!


"The Cells: The noise is generated in the cells as shot noise it can be measured with the correct filters it almost corresponds to gravity waves but it can be thermal and conductance fluctuations, or I/F noise that is what I'm talking about as I mention to Jim. It is because we do not have controlled process or refinement of what we are putting together for cells. But I do have cells that keep working here, and Marcus Reid cells keep working too."

What I suspect is the noise is the charges that are in our planetary system flowing into the source that is in our planet. Take the circle I had you imagine with the line going from the center to exterior of the circle. Now draw another circle around our original cirlc but make sure you connect the exterior line to the new circle. This is our planet system. It is a recycling system. What goes up will come back to the source only to recycle again into the system. The going up is a conversion process from the charges that collect to our source potential in the center of all the circles. Heat is the vehicle to go up via convection. When the charges get to the upper strata of our atmosphere it stops because there is no more matter to interact with then condenses into the ionosphere. The vehicle for transfer was created when our planetary potential formed. This radiant network around our mass is there because of mater. Gases, water, rock and soils all contribute to the radiant network around our planet. So this vehicle that charges use to rise is the space in between mater. And as charges go up they impart heat all the way up loosing the charges as it goes. Once the charges have depleted then the vehicle gets heavy and falls back down twords the source point in our planet. This is what water is! The vehicle with little charge left. Only enough to bind real matter to the vehicle. Hydrogen and oxygen combine and we have condensation as well after that forming. This is what rain is. As the vehicle attains enough weight is flows faster and faster to the potential in our planet. The vehicle is all but invisible to our sight and senses but none the less is very real. Gravity is proof of this effect and is caused by the slight charge that the vehicle still has. as it drives past us it gently tugs on our mater.
John is probably very correct about it being gravity based as I think the crystals we are using are getting hit and provide us with a potential for our batteries we are trying to build here.

"I do not think that it is impossible to light 3 Led's for many months, Chuck and I have been lighting 6 Led's for about 4 months now. The only thing is the oscillator driving them. I have said before how the oscillator does this as it works as a pump. Oscillators can be tricky when your talking about BJT circuit as the transistor can add extra energy in noise, so the real test is to lower this frequency down with off the shelf parts and not some cooked diodes that are special. I know that you have worked on this BJT and parts are a problem for you so I thought I would make this simple. I might wind the transformer in the patent to see what the results are. If I wanted to get extra I would do it open loop without the use of the Toridal Transformer. I have not played with this yet but I'm going to. But it is all standard engineering here and no Voodoo. So I guess I will proceed with this."

Speaking of transistors lets look at this and try to incorporate it into the design:

http://underservice.org/files/magnetic_amplifiers.pdf