Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[NickZ]

  John has mentioned that water is needed at first but that later it is needed less and less as time goes by.  I don't know, but if the oxidation is controlled by the carbonate ions that may actually be protecting the anodes over time instead of creating more break down of the metals, it may work as planned.  We need to give him a chance to prove the point.  If the cells are not working as he thinks, the result will be a dropping of the output over time. So, again time will tell, as it always has.  Carbonate is known for making for good electrolytes. As its ions protect or at least don't eat up the metals. In any case I'm not doing that, until we see some further results, but so far it is the best results that have been obtained, at least by him. 
   I would really like to see the Blue cell connected to an led, or a Jtc, it might just be able to light a red led by itself as some of my cells have done.   I am very interested in seeing some output test on that cell, as it has the highest current output of all, other than Lasersabers wet cells. If the meter readings are now correct that is.  Again I recommend the Lasersaber Jtc, as it is super easy to make, and has given great results by the people replicating it, although at least three or more cells may be needed to make it work properly.
  I will soon have some results to show and tell about my hot dog on a stick cell. I'm just giving it a chance to dry some more. I don't expect exceptional result, as I'm not following the Epsom/substitute salt mg/copper way of doing it. But I will make another copper, aluminum hot dog cell soon so that I'll have more results to compare, and also be able to at least light a red led.  This time I'll be using a semiconductor copper anode.
   

[jbignes5]

 Does anyone know if McCormics cream of tartar is the real stuff?? potassium bitartrate?? I know it came up before I just don't know where...

My newest cell is hooked up to all of the glue cells and running the head of a single led flashlight head. You know the super cap one. I have it hooked up at the led connections and when you turn it off it charges the cap pretty well. So far 2.6 volts seems to be the limit of the cells. Weird. 2.6 seems to be the voltage no matter what I hook up to the batteries. I think using a cap to exercise(charge) is the best growth medium. Hopefully there is enough structure in the newest cell to hold the current open. It could be the weak cells are holding this new battery back so to speak.

Johns ideas are unique as well and I didn't know the water did the same as I have described in my setups. Nice. I'll be starting the Rochelle battery Sodium Carbonate battery soon in both yours and John B style. I am ramping up my researching into this process quickly. Once I get the right cream of tartar I'll be starting that. I think Rochelle salt might be a better crystalline material because we can vary the composition of the crystals making it tune-able.

*update* I had an interesting thing happen with the led light head. While soldering the tab some rosin got trapped between two tabs of the rectifier on one side. The led stayed on no matter what I did. I even disassembled the setup trying to figure out what was going on. I unsoldered the connection and it went away. the solder bridge was crystalline as rosin is a crystal. this caused a connection without really shorting the two out. I will try to get a picture of the unit and where it had the crystal bridge. I will also see if I can get it to do the same thing.
I couldn't get it to do the same thing again the funny thing is the only power was the super cap that the head has mounted on it... I think it has something to do with being similar to an active Averamenko plug. When I checked the voltage on the super cap it was steady at whatever the voltage I charged the cap upto. The cap is marked 5.5volts but had a voltage of 2.6volts. Strange. I also bridged the tabs from each bank of the rectifiers together in parallel. Thats where the coils come from the shake up part. That might have something to do with it also. Let me get a photo of it...

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On 100_364 The lower rectifier in the picture had the rosin bridge and for some reason it stayed lit no matter what I did. When I decided to unsolder it, the rosin melted and the led went out. The funny thing is the cap was maintaining the 2.6 volts steady. I checked it while the led was lit and stayed at 2.6 for over half an hour till I unsoldered the connection I made.

[jbignes5]

 Well I'm on the hunt for some magnesium plates and aluminum round stock for my units. I want a good thick outer walls for the aluminum. I am wondering if I should have them made cast style then finished by lathe. With the inside anodized to form a good layer of oxide. I figure I can have a cap made from flat stock then drill out the hole for the electrode with plastic insert. I am wondering if I should use graphite powder instead of the carbon (just a thought)?

[b_rads]

Well I'm on the hunt for some magnesium plates and aluminum round stock for my units. I want a good thick outer walls for the aluminum. I am wondering if I should have them made cast style then finished by lathe. With the inside anodized to form a good layer of oxide. I figure I can have a cap made from flat stock then drill out the hole for the electrode with plastic insert. I am wondering if I should use graphite powder instead of the carbon (just a thought)?

Everyone must choose their own path and no one knows yet what the correct path is.  I subscribe to the "KISS" method in building these cells.  This is why I think the glue and stove top crystal cells are so popular.  Simple build with easily obtainable materials.  I have lost count of the number of cells I have constructed.  Made three last night and have less than 2 bucks invested.  Much easier to throw away the cells when they do not perform.  I enjoy your posts as you bring many interesting ideas to the table.  Good luck with your builds. 
Brad S

[jbignes5]

 Well a lot has already been tried. The first thing I did was to make a batch of IB's Glue cells. They are the best runners so far. The chemicals are not that hard for me to get since I have a professional art store just around the corner. Very eclectic shop indeed. This is a super store and they are very interested in what I am doing too. They call me the "Battery" man there. Rofl

I try to think in broader terms when relating my insight into the Aether. It doesn't directly affect matter but it can align it to it's flow. The path of least resistance is like a weather vane in the sense of the flow. It's a subtle touch but if you learn how to stick to it very tightly it can be very powerful. They say we are actually moving at over  "552 to 630 km per second" per wikipedia. We are essentially flying through this stuff and all matter has a flow of this stuff filtering through it. Now the Galaxy is by no means homogeneous. It can have flows over light years. And I'm afraid that matter is floating on the surface of this fluid. The fluid tends to ball up on a planar orientation. This is merely a surface between two distinct densities of charges. You could think that The universe is a bubble if you could see it's real form. As mass goes it is looking like matter is in a sphere but that might be an illusion based on our fractal view points. The Aether is super fast. It can be because it is what we float in. Waves propagate very fast in this pond. Think about that. Hydro dynamics applied to space and beyond. It can also work down further in as we are now able to see.
It makes sense to me. The only thing that is different is density and scale then. At the smallest levels creatures live and breathe. They forage and propagate. They have their own gravity and that is natural statics. Although I would want to apply rules of statics to our scale of density. When comparing masses and the density of masses to each other we might be able to piece together the fractal patterns back to our scale and simulate that accurately. Our Technology might be able to get so far before there is a blank. Just too much density for one connection looking into that place to physically handle.. Besides it is looking good about this process. We just have to sit and think about it first. The processes that are going on here are extremely accurate or can be when you learn how to manipulate matter on that scale. Energy, while forming this electric battery will be essential to this process. We can use it to align the crystalline structure into super conductive bands. These bands will be piezoelectric and as the Aether rushes by it it will resonate giving energy. I was wondering if I could put some phosphor in the mix and see if it will glow too as a joke! Like it was radio active lol...

I promised the art store people that I would bring in the battery for them to see heh.. Glowing and all should scare the crap out of them lol!!!!

As a side not Rochelle salts grows as threads right? Long and thin? Hmmm...

I was researching crystals and how they grow and it always starts with seeds. Oh wait thats what we are doing with the oxide. Sweet...

I am betting that to do this right will include the breaking down of water to assemble the inside crystals. This way the pathway will be aligned by the electrical action and the crystals should follow that and get denser as they build into the center. For the crystal version. The carbon crystal one should be much easier to do. We just need a uniform density of crystals so that one area is not out of balance. I was thinking of a crystal grinder made from oxidized aluminum. There should be a flow of solution through a spinning drum like device. The distance should not be too far apart from the interior of the drum. Kinda like the stepper motors design. The outside spins and the inside is stationary. Both sides should be oxidized for the best growing base. The outside will spin breaking the crystals off and grinding them with the oxide breaking them up to a uniform size I am thinking. The solution could have crystals growing in it already and just process the crystals into a slurry that can be injected into the case in layers then dried out by kiln if needed to a certain level or we could include a dessicant in cavities for a special growth cap for the device. power should be applied to align the whole device then compressed to lock in the pattern and solidify. With enough pressure and heat you could get the rochelle salts to form little disks but must not be overdone or the carbon might turn to diamond. Which would ruin the effect I think... It might be that the disks would go piezoelectric while being squeezed and you just need to short it out in that process. The cap method should enable us to build in a compression value when firmly secured by bolts. The compression should be very quick and accurately controlled and secured right after compression. Once secured it should be stored for a bit and monitored for levels. After a few days it should be ready from the strengthening phase. Slowly the load is increased in a seesaw manner.

My idea to use rochelle salts was only because of the methode to make it. It's composition can be enhanced by dopants that we still have not figured out completely. Besides quartz is made naturally and you are relying on that natural composition without the ability to change it's mixture you loose a majority of the tunability of these reeds(crystal disks)!

The more you compress these disks the more sensitive to movement they become. Since the crystalline structure is so dense in it's construction it will increase the voltage back for little input. In active mode they will be powered amplifiers. Greatly increasing The push power the more that are in series. We might need to have many in parallel in order to get movement through the Aether and when I say movement I mean pulling ourselves through the Aether. Tesla talked about making fibers out of the Aether and pulling himself or a vehicle through Aether by the ropes. He learned that he could control the Aether and make it stiff or polarized. This carbon crystal battery is not what we think. If it can receive energy from the Aether then it can effect it too! It might be that we can control the Aether through a high voltage fields like in TV's. It's not the particle they are influencing it is the very medium of space. That constriction of the fields draws more in and raises the resolution of that space imparting more charge carrying capability. The one way valve allows us to apply it to a cavity creating an inductive bottle that sucks in the Aether and spits it out the end. We can control this process by fields encircling the escape port. we can even move the fields with servos back and forth relative to each other and effect all angles that way and make it steerable. We should also be able to form a bubble and travel at full network speed safe in the bubble. Just like in Star Trek. Changing the shape of the bubble will allow us to move in that case.

The simple glue cells tell me that we have figured out a way to maintain an imbalance across two spaces. This is an artificial surface we are creating. We can run the load for as much power as that natural element voltage can push across that surface. Now what we need to do the improve the process is figure out how to increase it's capability to go beyond what it naturally supplies. This will mean designing and creating the space with matter to collect and divert more of that potential out the end of an orifice. The more the Aether we can get into that space the better it's capability to pull and compress the Aether.

The response of the Aether is what induction is. When we pulse a coil we get a response of the Aether releasing it's threads or network lines back into the environment. This generates a return pulse that has been misconstrued as negative. It isn't negative at all it is just less positive then the environmental balance point. We chose the balance point as the zero line and that actually is absolute zero in reality. The lowest possible temp before matter dissipates. Negative would be in reality lower then absolute zero. A true negative would force all matter to fall apart. It actually would repel all particles in atoms and is what I suspect is making us speed up as in Universal speed. You could say that it is anti matter but in reality it is only what holds all particles apart. Even the network of energy flows in the Universe.