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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid

4mv was all I ever got from the electrodes and they were in there overnight.triffid

PhiChaser

Made quite a few cells over the weekend. The ice cube trays actually produced a couple 'cube' cells! ;) I may try to find some mini ice cube trays, the full size ones use a bit more in materials than I want to use per cell (until I find a really good mix anyways). I will take another pic of some of the new cells in a day or two (or four or a week...).
Will be working with alum and Durham's for a while. Alum seems to puff up a bit so maybe aspirin will help with that... Not much of what I did this weekend was 'done' today. The 'cubes' are giving me over 1.25v when I hook them up in series easily. That particular mix set in minutes and I was able to remove the two 'cubes' from the tray (after only an hour!) to help them dry...
I just looked at the two salt sub bottle cells (that don't have any salt sub in them ironically) and the two 'cubes' I have in series (4 cells total) and they are at 2.15v. I will leave the VOM on and check them in the morning... No cells tonight, maybe tomorrow, I'm beat...

Happy experimenting,
PC

EDIT: The next morning; Looks like the voltage fell to 1.93v so I lost a bit over 2/10ths of a volt overnight. I will unhook them and let them rest for an hour (since I was messing with them before I hooked them up last night so they started a bit low ;) ).  I might get to make some cells today if I have time...

PhiChaser

Hmmm... I just hooked the 4 cells in series again (after letting them rest about 10 minutes) and got a reading of 2.62v that quickly fell to below 1.7v (not sure where it quit dropping, will have to do some more observation). I went and made myself a cup of coffee and came back and the VOM is sitting at 1.86v. Maybe ten minutes isn't quite enough to charge them back up?
The last connection I made was in the middle between the four cells so maybe that has something to do with it too. Each cell 'potential' in increased when connected in series (one after another) until you get to the meter probes (ends)? Something to look into maybe...

Happy experimenting,
PC

jbignes5

@Ib


I don't know what it is with you. You say water has nothing to do with this process but yet you refuse to see the facts. ALL of the crystals have what we call water of crystallization. All of the crystals use this water to give it refractive power and focusing abilities.


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Almost all known forms of crystalline structures utilizer either in the formation of them or maintain a certain crystalline water in them. No matter what you think it is the very mechanism that propagates the structure in the crystals to form. Water is in the cells no matter what you think.


The trick is not to let water do it's job and repel the water from the electrodes but yet allow the electrodes to induce a voltage beyond its own standing values to run the light loads we are using.


We have to understand that we are merely pulling leaking energy into this cell from the environment and converting it into a voltage. This is done by a unique setup we have. This setup allows crystalline water to move exchanging charges from water molecule to molecule and from electrode to electrode. This isn't a slow process because of the layered movement through the crystalline structures we have form between the two electrodes. These structures are like little pyramids on one side. They focus the charges and amplify them in intensity. Pressure from behind the pyramid is then utilized to focus and intensify charges into smaller and smaller spaces and the structure also makes it's own voltage to boot. I think if we tune our exciter it should resonante the crystals with it's own potential difference. This is where blocking oscilators and the likes can help with power delivery.


I am suspecting that the combination of two different crystal structures is giving a byproduct of additional energy from the crystalline structures matter as the first process is already running the second is the ringing of the structure itself. This adds the static portion to the mix increasing it's bias further. I am starting to think that matter has a frequency to it. a structural frequency. Resonate to that structure and it will energize like the dikkens. It should work on the expansion and contraction theories as well. When super energized the matter fluffs up as there is now more space in between each atom or cell. This might have to be figured into the equation. Growth and expansion would make sense, especially when you take into account empirical study of our cells that grow. Most of my cells grew well after they were put together. I used pretty thick cell jars made out of very thick plastic. All of my cells showed signs of growth after genesis. The plastic jars literally were being stretched out. They all had these checking marks that went from one end to the other. I still have some of the jars and will put it up for viewing soon.


The growth and expansion is already noted in smelting of matter procedures. Albeit that heat is a different kind of charge it should still obey the fundamental laws of balance, fields and force. It's all about displacement then balance at the lowest levels.


Tesla really started to understand the all of this medium. Thats why distance after a while meant little to him. Now it was harnessing a huge spacial event into a very small container. He likened a thin wire to dynamite when properly stimulated. He was testing density of matter and it's reaction to being highly stimulated. This was the extreme though but it teaches us that even matter has it's limits. Well some matter. Diamond seems to be tough enough to handle the extreme conditions. By the way the water is in the carbon they use to form diamonds. Carbon it seems is a very good sponge for water. Since carbons structure has to stay behind I believe it gets squished to it's limits and becomes the housing of the crystalline water. I wonder if there is a way to include an electrode that the diamond can form around. we could also put the outer electrode in there as the diamond forms. This way it will be biased by the metals when it forms to create a diode in the structure of the diamond. I don't know if this could be possible to do since that is not my forte'.

jbignes5

 Here is a description about quartz that made me think a bit....


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These two statements are very very interesting. Chemically inert? and Electrical? WTF. Some how we must grow this quartz. can we bake them? Do they need pressure to grow? can we dope the quartz? What I was thinking was growing the quartz on the electrodes and walla.. Perfect interface! Then change the electrolyte to a stronger conductor and we have the perfect setup with plenty of power! The problem with oxides is they are not very durable. Think about how durable quartz will be! But we have to either find a way to bind the quartz to the electrode or find a way to grow it directly on the electrode. This is the key. Binding it could be done through epoxies or something similar in a mix of pulverized quartz. Then you could polarize the mix via two electrodes. If done right it should align the quartz sand in the mix and allow for it to form polarized links of crystalline material. I would have to say that if we could grow it on the center electrode as a barrier we could push these cells much further in Voltage sustaining ability.[/font]