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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid

My eye surgery went well.I have 20/25 in the right eye now and drove home the first time in my adult life without glasses.I say get it if you need it cataracts removed that is.Its like trying to look through muddy brown water.My dry electrodes measured only .06 volts at noon time.
I may have figured out a way to protect the magnesium.If it works I will let you guys know.Good work PC you are an inspiration to us all.Popping out little batteries like theres no tomorrow.Dont need egg cartons with your technique.triffid




my near sight in the right eye is gone so Im
lop sided for now.

PhiChaser

Hey all,
Interesting results to share:
I was messing around with my four 'favorite' cells and was testing the voltage/current output of the cells, the cells in series, and the amperage of same... I wanted to do both a current and voltage reading at the same time right? Okay, the logical way is to attatch both meters to the cells right? When attatching the leads to the ends of the four cells in series the best I could get was less than 0.05v on the VOM with the ammeter hooked up too. Super lame right... Whenever anything is hooked up to the cells the voltage shows a change (drop). So... I unhook the microammeter from the ends of the four cells in series and instead connect them to just one of the cells while still leaving all four cells connected in series (for the VOM reading). Lo and behold the voltage goes back up (to reasonable numbers anyways) and I have both meters giving me readings!
I hooked this up at a bit after 8am this morning (in this fashion) and when I left the readings were 1.40v and slowly climbing, and the uA meter was at 20uA. When I got home three hours later the readings were 1.58v and the uA meter is reading 32uA...
What does this mean? Obviously I need to do more testing... ;)

Happy experimenting,
PC

@ triffid: Glad to hear everything went alright for you!

triffid

No current plating. 
By "electroless plating", industry professionals really mean "autocatalytic plating". So your question becomes what is the difference between immersion plating solutions and autocatalytic plating solutions.[/font][/size]
An immersion plating solution operates on the principal of displacement of the surface skin of the substrate by a more noble metal that is in solution. In science class, high school kids put iron nails in beakers of copper sulphate and watch as the outermost layer of iron goes into solution and is replaced by copper ions coming out of solution. There are several weaknesses to immersion plating. First, the thickness is limited to a few atoms: once the surface is covered by the new plating, the solution doesn't "see" the substrate anymore, so no more substrate atoms can dissolve, and consequently no more noble metal ions deposit. The second problem is that you can't immersion deposit a baser metal onto a more noble metal; for example, you can't immersion deposit copper onto gold, because the built in battery that drives immersion reactions is wired the wrong way. Thirdly, immersion deposits tend to exhibit poor adhesion; now I'm just guessing, but this might be related to the fact that the substrate is dissolving as the reaction proceeds.[/font]
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Autocatalytic solutions are sort of "spring loaded" reactions which are driven by reducing agents in the solution, but which will only take place in the presence of a catalyst; but the metal being deposited is one of the catalysts. So you start the reaction either with electricity or by depositing onto a substrate which is also catalytic to the solution; and the reaction continues as long as the surface being plated remains in the solution, continuing to catalyze the reaction. Consequently the thickness can be much, much greater. Autocatalytic gold plating is a relatively recent development whereas immersion plating was probably known to the ancients.[/font]
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triffid

PC,you are reporting your current in microamps(uAs).  32 milliamps(mAs)=32000  microamps(uAs).So my question is  is it mAs you are reading or uAs?I had to look at my voltmeter too  to be sure what I was reading.triffid

triffid

These batteries love heat so could be the day is warming up?