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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid


Peanutbutter29

well I've read up a bit and watched some more videos, just getting  an idea of where to head.  I had a couple things I'm curious about though.

What is the synopsis for the cause / reason for these cells to work?
I know you'd mentioned galvanic but your heading away from that with the glue and vit c. Basically in looking over some of the used materials Rochelle, salt, substitute, alum etc;  they are all high level hydrates hexa- hepta- etc.  They are all highly hygroscopic if taken to anhydrous forms. 

So there's 3 questions I have here. 
-Are you attempting to prevent hydrolysis from the air?  Do you believe this to be a breakdown cause?
-Is the intent to keep the various forms in anhydrous state by removing the water of crystallization?  Do you believe this to be a breakdown cause.
-Do you know if metal Electronegativity is playing a role with either the Cathode or Anode;  As well with the salts?

Wondering these couple things I did check to see if it would be possible to simulate these properties with non hygroscopic and insoluble materials.  This would correct both of the above, though I'm not sure one might be required.  At any rate it seems;
- Calcium Sulfate could possibly replace Magnesium sulfate and would be similar in activity series, Anhydrous naturally, insoluble and a Cation like Epsom.
- Cesium Alum could possibly replace Potash Alum currently used.  Similarly, Anhydrous, insoluble and a double sulfate.
-overall that would create a larger "delta" between electronegativities than Potassium and magnesium now.
Has anyone tried either of these?

Just curious really if any of this is known or conjectured yet, as it could help with material selection. 

Lastly I'd seen someone (think lidmotor vid) using Rochelle, but I don't see that is as common?  Was there a reason here or again already covered.  I noted that's the only piezoelectric salt used, correct?  If so and its not popular I am assuming there's no piezoelectric variations or thoughts?

thanks

triffid

PB after a certain point of dryness I seal my cells with wax.Which they like because the wax is hot in the beginning.So like an hour after Ive poured the last wax into the last cell.I take readings of volts and amps.As far as calicum sufate goes can you find that in a local store?We are trying to use materials that can be found easily with no restrictions on transport and that are not tightly regulated by the government.We are trying to use cheap materials.I know copper sulfate can be found in feed stores.I used to buy a big jar of it for about 12 dollars back in 1996.They use it to kill algae in swimming pools now.I did copper refineing with mine.I know the others go to home depot and lowes and I had to go several miles out of my way to find morton salt sub which seems to be the only salt sub that works.In a grocery store.Morton salt sub contains fumaric acid which the first salt sub I used contained none of it.With that first salt sub none of my cells worked.But they worked once I had Mortons salt sub.And used it in their creation.


The vitamin C cells contain three acids  ascorbic acid,stearic acid from the vitamin C pill and then fumaric acid from the morton salt sub.
dry organic acids seemed to be the way to go but I wanted more power so I decided to try to use some acetic acid(vineagar).The vitamin C pills also contained food grade silica which tends to believe or not to repel other forms of matter.I thought this should keep those casimir plates open a little longer.


There are those who believe that silicon(silica) is the source of the dark force that keeps the universe expanding.If so then its everywhere in the universe.

triffid

-Is the intent to keep the various forms in anhydrous state by removing the water of crystallization.
I do not believe the water of crystallization is bad because that water is locked away inside the crystal.Just my personal belief.I do let my cells dry out about three or four days then seal with wax.I certainly do not want to add any more water to them.triffid

triffid

-Do you know if metal Electronegativity is playing a role with either the Cathode or Anode;  As well with the salts?
I believe that electronegativity is driving the entire process here.It decides which electrode is pos and which is neg.The organic acids make the connections between the crystal lattice and the electrodes as the cells are drying out.I have to say this for my cells that electronegativity is very important.I do not apply any outside current to my cells as they are drying.