Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[ibpointless2]

I made a video showing one of my copper tube cells with the paper that has salt sub and Epsom salt rubbed into it. In the video I show that the magnesium is not corroding and is still fully intact and still shinny. This cell still gives over 1.4 volts and its the same design that powers my 5 foot tall cell that powers a LCD clock now for several months.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvSJ_5lA0CM

[jbignes5]

@IB You need to dissect the whole thing my friend. Check for any corrosion on everything, even the paper. You could always put it back together...




As I reported with my first really wet cell the aluminum never got corroded. Yes I said wet cell. It was very very wet. This was the cell I treated with borax on the aluminum before the assembly. The only thing that corroded was the graphite rod I was using. The thing there was the salt got into the pours of the graphite and crystallized. The expansion of the crystals is the reason for this "Corrosion" from my initial investigation and for no other reason.


Have you tried the paper with graphite colored on the paper yet? The salt you can use in cell to soak into the paper after construction. But as per most electrolytic cells you are gonna have to use a plastic sheet separator on one side as to make a non short-able cell. Then you can roll it up just like an electrolytic cap. Just make sure you have colored a very thick layer for the graphite. Aluminum needs to be oxidized more then what oxygen does normally. I have been playing with borax and oxy cleaner. I don't have any results yet but I will keep you in the loop to let you know about that...

Also could you ask allwest to stack those single metal batteries together in alternating layers like this:

Non oxidized metal to oxidized metal and so on, to see if they are indeed acting like a cell or if the electrodes from his meters are acting like the other metal....

[PhiChaser]

New readings this morning on the plain 'ol Durham's shows .0056 volts and the most delicate meter I have (0-15uA) did not budge so... I hooked the cell up to a 6 volt lantern battery in parallel and the Durham's only cell did not take a charge. Obvious conclusion: It takes more than just gypsum (Durham's) to make a cell and the power is in the salt (crystalline water)!

PC

[Peanutbutter29]

I'm putting together a couple things to show and will post later today.  I wanted to say I did get to read up on the energetic forum some (first 20 pages and last 5), but still have a ways to go.  I'm glad to see (3-4 pages from last?) that when John Bedini finally talked to a Chemistry Professor;  he was pointed to chemical reactions.  That should help things go quicker I would assume.  It seems there are quite a few varied ideas that have been cast out, in just what I've read so far.  I would imagine, if it's all figured out, someone probably will have already suggested it;  since there's so many thrown out.

I was not aware of Marcus Reid or his batteries, but I did read a bit on rexresearch.  I saw there were some suggestions in what I'd read over there, mabye there will be others as I read more.  I suppose my stab at it would be Al outer (with Graphite / carbon separator) Cu inner and Zn Silicate, at least that would chemically explain it.  Not a bad way, though extremely show to react into Silicic Acid and finally the Carbonate.  Several metal silicates would behave this way though.

I saw some conversation about TT's electrogravitic research related to diurnal fluctuations of High K materials;  though, I believe, he was looking for a "cause" for why dielectrics showed, what he considered gravitational anomalies. 

I saw some conversation related to electrets; though these cells cannot ever truly be an electret from current construction.  Since they rely on pure high K dielectrics, metals and a high electrostatic field.  However the polar nature of certain electrolytes does allow the possibility for better atomic alignment, and thus my intent on suggestion.  Not as a mode of operation.  (Diveflyfish, I guess has shown improvement from magnetic field in his designs).  Lastly here, I suppose, If someone has a design they want to test with electrostatic formation;  I do still have my 60Kvdc 10ma supply around (fully adjustable).

I'm hoping in reading to find more people trying piezoelectric type batteries.  Diveflyfish has shown formulas (on his video) that are at least heading that way.  I would like to see one constructed of non-reactive, non-electrolyte piezoelectrics though (e.g. no pyrite, galena, epsom, borax, etc.)

I suppose that's all I can immediately think of from reading up on things.  I could've avoided writing some things had I known about energtic, since some was kinda covered in some ways.  Sorry about my ignorance there.

Finally, I'll update with some information on m'cells n' such later.  Still don't have the JT parts, so just measures;  but good to see.  Going to show a style that may throw a few off 

Thanks

PS @ Phi, ya I have no clue about Durhams porosity alone.  Sure bubbles are expected from gasses created by the reaction of multi-salts and / or metals.  The only reason to note it was; the page on art clays (talking about 10-15 varieties) had just commented on it being more porous than other clays.  Their complaint was it absorbed too much paint because of this I believe.  Just seemed interesting there

EDIT:  Phi just saw your durhams update.   This should confirm it's place as an Ion separator as mentioned, correct?

[ibpointless2]

@IB You need to dissect the whole thing my friend. Check for any corrosion on everything, even the paper. You could always put it back together...




As I reported with my first really wet cell the aluminum never got corroded. Yes I said wet cell. It was very very wet. This was the cell I treated with borax on the aluminum before the assembly. The only thing that corroded was the graphite rod I was using. The thing there was the salt got into the pours of the graphite and crystallized. The expansion of the crystals is the reason for this "Corrosion" from my initial investigation and for no other reason.


Have you tried the paper with graphite colored on the paper yet? The salt you can use in cell to soak into the paper after construction. But as per most electrolytic cells you are gonna have to use a plastic sheet separator on one side as to make a non short-able cell. Then you can roll it up just like an electrolytic cap. Just make sure you have colored a very thick layer for the graphite. Aluminum needs to be oxidized more then what oxygen does normally. I have been playing with borax and oxy cleaner. I don't have any results yet but I will keep you in the loop to let you know about that...

Also could you ask allwest to stack those single metal batteries together in alternating layers like this:

Non oxidized metal to oxidized metal and so on, to see if they are indeed acting like a cell or if the electrodes from his meters are acting like the other metal....

I made another video showing more of the electrical tape being removed. The magnesium is still shinny and strong and shows no deterioration at all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IjxYB8jDGM