Motor-Generator

[jbignes5]

Speaking of capacitor dumps why not discharge the cap across a spark gap into a transformer then rectifier bridge back to the battery via another cap?


Prolly best to dump the cap into a bifilar wind on the transformer or for quick test do it via a regular old transformer. Since you see a lowering of the current from the setup it should be possible to self run this thing. Should being an educated guess. This mixes several techniques into one neat package. You might want to have a load ready to run from the battery just in case it free runs out of control. <-again just a guess since I have not done this yet.

[yssuraxu_697]

No, not at this time. This is what I'm trying to fine tune and what you believe not to be possible to do.

It's not about believing, but about things called "scientific method" and "laws of logic".

As for earlier discussion theres of course some other theoretical possibilites how system would be still COP > 1.

Consider for example this theoretical experimental setup:

10W with no coil present (losses baseline)
15W with coil present
14W with loaded coil producing 5W (-1W from losses baseline, "acceleration under load", COP > 1)
16W with loaded coil producing 7W (again -1W from losses baseline, COP > 1)

however

14W with loaded coil producing 3W (+1W from losses baseline, "acceleration under load", COP < 1)
16W with loaded coil producing 5W (+1W from losses baseline, COP < 1)

In case of Ukranian gen it's pretty obvious which one it is...

As for TH tech I do not have enough info to decide which way is it. Probably you are under NDA etc and meaningful discussion cannot be conducted...

[yssuraxu_697]

Seems that someone has already done good sum-up of the TH stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

http://garagehacker.com/index.php/topic/73-gestalts-replication-of-regenerative-accelerationstrange-lenz-effects/

The little details and explanations why is this so may be a bit off but the summary sums it up rather well. This is not surprising because should it actually work as advertised TH would have disappeared from the scene very quickly either counting dollars in new villa or by some other less nice scenario. Having working stuff does not involve endless hanging around in "FE community". Sad but true.

[jbignes5]

This study is bogus.


The reason being is that TH used a bifilar inside of the generating coils. This causes a looping effect enhancing the generating coils ability to generate even more.


Taking away the overwound generating coil is no proof against TH claims. The bifilar coils by itself won't show you anything as is evident by the above mentioned video. It is the combination of the two coils that shows interesting looping results.

[gotoluc]

That study is not Thane's case. This guy must have a short (spark gap) in his coil as Thane's coils do not do this. Remove the coil only and leave the core and it's the same input power.
As I said before the only losses at this time are core losses but one way or the other all generator suffer from the same core loses.
Coil DC resistance use to be another cause of losses but that's now solved. Coils now have less then 0.5 Ohm and still accelerate under load.

I see Thane twice a week and I can tell you he's not living in a villa. He just stopped sharing because of the negativity.

Luc