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Any proof?

Started by firda, January 04, 2012, 01:04:22 PM

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ltseung888

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There is a mechanism in the pendulum that changes the direction of the force - it is the string.  The bob wants to fall, but the string does not let it.  The bob wants to remain level as it is being moved, but the string will not let it.  The function is similar to an inclined plane.

Dear eatenbyagrue,

Please think more about your comparison with the inclined plane.

The pulse-pushed Pendulum is unique in that it can lead-out gravitational energy.  We used the simplest case of applying a horizontal force to it when it is at rest. 

You said that the mechanism was the string that changes the direction of the force.  It is correct.  But if it is correct, we can then apply the Laws of Physics to resolve it into two components â€" the vertical and the horizontal.  That is our analysis.  Are you saying that we cannot resolve the force from the string (tension) into these components?  Please think and consult your professors and knowledgeable physicist friends.

We can apply the Laws of Physics to any real situation.  This is regarded as the ultimate test of these Laws.  Sometimes we might have overlooked some factors and misapplied such Laws.  In the example outlined in Divine Revelation 2.xls, there are NO mistakes or misapplication.

The scientists in the past misapplied the Law of Conservation of Energy to the whole class of lead-out or bring-in energy machines.  These machines bring-in existing energy from the environment.

You should enjoy arguments but should not be eaten by them.

When sowing seeds, some may fall on hard rock.  I leave it in the hands of the Almighty.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

eatenbyagrue

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 30, 2012, 10:11:37 AM
Are you saying that we cannot resolve the force from the string (tension) into these components?  Please think and consult your professors and knowledgeable physicist friends.


You telling me to think more or to consult my friends without answering my criticisms is a non-answer.  I do not need to consult with anyone.  This is high school stuff.


I challenge you to distinguish your pendulum from an inclined plane in any way meaningful to this analysis.  In other words, why is an inclined plane under unity, while your devices delivers free energy?  "Pulsing" or whatever it is you are doing could easily be done in an inclined plane scenario.


Second, you have also not answered my comment about applying tangential force.  When you apply tangential force, as you state, you are applying your pulse diagonally, not horizontally.  So why all the math with the horizontal work versus vertical work?  The bob goes exactly in the direction you push it.




ltseung888

Quote from: eatenbyagrue on March 30, 2012, 11:20:48 AM

You telling me to think more or to consult my friends without answering my criticisms is a non-answer.  I do not need to consult with anyone.  This is high school stuff.

*** The teachers in high school never learned lead-out energy theory.  The theory was developed in 2004 and has not found its way into textbooks yet.


I challenge you to distinguish your pendulum from an inclined plane in any way meaningful to this analysis.  In other words, why is an inclined plane under unity, while your devices delivers free energy?  "Pulsing" or whatever it is you are doing could easily be done in an inclined plane scenario.

*** I do not accept such challenges.  The pulse-pushed pendulum and the continuous pushed incline plane are two different machines working on different mechanisms.  Why waste time and brain-power?


Second, you have also not answered my comment about applying tangential force.  When you apply tangential force, as you state, you are applying your pulse diagonally, not horizontally.  So why all the math with the horizontal work versus vertical work?  The bob goes exactly in the direction you push it.

*** If you checked in the past posts and on the Divine Revelation 2.xls, you would have found that we know the use of the tangential force long ago.  I did not choose to use it as the example as the mathematics is a little more complex.  I had another spreadsheet using that for analysis but all the students found this one easier.

*** Lee and I looked for the simplest model.  This horizontal push at stationary condition is the simplest we found.

Keep thinking and analyzing.  May the Almighty shine the light on you.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

eatenbyagrue

OK, I do not think this is going anywhere.  You appear to have great energy for this theory, but I do not believe it is workable, so I am not going to spend any more time on it.  You have committed some very basic mistakes, and appear to have no intention of acknowledging them.

Good luck with your endeavors.

ltseung888

Now that the explanation file on Divine Revelation 2.xls is complete, I do not need to engage in unnecessary re-explanation again.  Some seeds may still land on hard rock.
Here is the email extract from Mr. Wang Shen He yesterday.
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è'‹å...ˆç"Ÿ:十分想念!你何时回深圳看看æˆ'çš,,磁动力小è·'车!另外磁动力机还得加大技术转让宣传!王沈河致


Translated:

Dear Mr. Tseung,

When are you coming back to Shenzhen to see my magnet-driven electric sports car?  Please help to promote the technology transfer more.

Regards,
Wang Shen He


I shall be back in China towards the end of April.  If possible, some details of the magnet-driven electric car will be revealed.


Need any more proof???
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.