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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic Engine

Started by vineet_kiran, February 10, 2012, 08:34:41 AM

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vineet_kiran

Quote from: Low-Q on February 14, 2012, 05:04:18 PM
Well, whatever one might do with magnets, they all have a fixed set of magnetic lines (just for imaginary reference). These lines will be the same in number all the time, but over time the numbers are distributed differently at any given conditions of the machine - densed there, and less dense over here. Through a shield, or repelled by another magnet - whatever condition, you've got the same number of magnetic lines. What you gain in one situation will be lost in another, just because the number of magnetic lines did not change over that period of time. You are given a conservative amount of magnetism, that's all you've got, and it's constant in any situation. How can it be possible to maken an all magnet motor that works under these conditions?


Vidar


@Vidar



That is applicable for everything in the universe.   Mass also remains constant throughout a given period of time.   It aquires energy due to its position, velocity,  difference of forces acting on it  etc.    Mass can also be converted into energy as per a famous equation.   When it is possible to convert mass into energy,  it should also be possible to convert field into energy since field is as real and universal as matter.     Can any scientist  explain what is matter and what is field?

Vineet.K. 






sm0ky2

when Vidar speaks of the number of "field lines", this an arbitrary value, observed only by the effects of the field on another object. (i.e. magnetic viewer, gaussometer, ect.) What this really is refering to,
is the strength of the field itself. The Magnetic Amplitude, of the combined, alligned atomic radiation.
This field does radiate, though it is not generally percievable through mechanical interactions with matter.
And as such,. from a classical perspective, the field is considered "stationary".

It is easy to close your Box at this point, and blind yourself to all the possibilities, because you refuse to change your perspective view of a particular situation. It is like a man peering out the window contrasting what he sees to that of a man looking down at the entire planet from space.

From the man in space, there is a round mass, with a smaler mass orbiting around it, in what appears to be a semi-perpetual structure of interacting forces.

But the guy looking out his bedroom window sees a thunderstorm, lightning, and all sorts of other things going on around him.

It is great to ask the question -  "how could this be done?"

    But if you then close your mind to the answer, and instead hang yourself up on what you think is "impossible",  It is at that point, that your knowledge and understanding stops growing....

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

gauschor

Interesting setup. I think the most tricky part is to synchronize the movement of the flywheel with that of the shielding plate. Btw. I guess the flywheel would lose energy while passing either by
1) the solid shield - holding the moving magnet back resulting in cogging
2) the repelling pole - which the moving magnet needs to overcome first before it profits from the "push"

I don't think it's possible to get at a point where the pole of one magnet is at a position where only a repulsion accelerating the moving magnet in the "right direction" will take place (so says the experience unfortunately).

cyber19

Start with a multi piston radial inside a flywheel with magnets extending over the top of the piston. The 1st 30 degree section of magnets is opposite poles to pull the piston UP then a gap very close to the piston Top Dead Center then a 30 degree section of LIKE poles to push the piston down. Adjust the position of the flywheel for timing the magnets to the piston position.

Low-Q

Quote from: vineet_kiran on February 14, 2012, 11:42:08 PM


@Vidar



That is applicable for everything in the universe.   Mass also remains constant throughout a given period of time.   It aquires energy due to its position, velocity,  difference of forces acting on it  etc.    Mass can also be converted into energy as per a famous equation.   When it is possible to convert mass into energy,  it should also be possible to convert field into energy since field is as real and universal as matter.     Can any scientist  explain what is matter and what is field?

Vineet.K.
Yes, mass can be converted into energy, but that also means that mass is loosed. You can get energy out of a magnet, but that means the cost is to loose magnetism. What use do you have of a non magnetic magnet which has released all its potential energy into work?


Vidar