How dangerous is having a free energy device, exactly?

[Robert]

Servitude and oppression has everything to do with free energy.
If you want to break free from servitude, you must be prepared to fight your oppressors.

Then free energy is a matter of fact.

There is no electricity shortage other than the one they impose on us.

[mscoffman]

There is a web site that shows a similar device. It is
a very large washing-machine type unit that has large
volumes of water in an enclosure where it is kept in
constant chaotic motion. I said; Ok it's LENR...mechanical
phonons being injected into a hydrogen bearing liquid
with a metal tub and propeller...producing excess heat
and more motion.  It's not really magic or anything.

Since it already has design giantism...I would build it
into sea salt water desalinator modules. The folks that
would buy these *won't care* that they don't need any
external energy to operate. With multiple modules they
could combine these in tandem to make as big of water
flow as they want, all self contained.

He could take out standard utility patents on his design, but
he won't be able to patent the underlying energy principle,
unless he wants to get into LENR research like Rossi. This
will prevent you from understanding exactly how the unit
works as well, in detail.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Hi George,
That pump I suppose is purely hypothetical, right?
Cheers,
Tinu

I just visited this thread for the first time.
It occurs to me that an OU.com crackpot Neo-Nazi and his son in Poland (Dr. Nowak or "Dr. No" is his name) are trying to interest investors, etc., for their group's invention.   It takes hot water from an ordinary hot water heater tank and generates a substantial amount of electricity from it.

People around here dismiss his serious lack of details and drawings/schematics as being non-informative on an open forum like this.   'Dr. No' also indicates---his opinion---that the "Boys at Langley" know what he's doing.

Well, okay then, maybe so.   No one I've ever seen made money or was successful at this kind of endeavored industry or hobby/pastime.   If he becomes famous enough to have his name everywhere, that's different.   Witness Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy show.   An interviewed program subject said on camera, Ventura was too famous to kill.   And then make him a martyr.

Take this for what it's worth to Just George, his friend, and all others.   There are complex factors involved, sometimes.

--Lee

[Just George]

I just visited this thread for the first time.
It occurs to me that an OU.com crackpot Neo-Nazi and his son in Poland (Dr. Nowak or "Dr. No" is his name) are trying to interest investors, etc., for their group's invention.   It takes hot water from an ordinary hot water heater tank and generates a substantial amount of electricity from it.

People around here dismiss his serious lack of details and drawings/schematics as being non-informative on an open forum like this.   'Dr. No' also indicates---his opinion---that the "Boys at Langley" know what he's doing.

Well, okay then, maybe so.   No one I've ever seen made money or was successful at this kind of endeavored industry or hobby/pastime.   If he becomes famous enough to have his name everywhere, that's different.   Witness Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy show.   An interviewed program subject said on camera, Ventura was too famous to kill.   And then make him a martyr.

Take this for what it's worth to Just George, his friend, and all others.   There are complex factors involved, sometimes.

--Lee

I'm a little confused. Are you suggesting that I am in some way connected to this DR No person/group? I hope not.

I'm also confused about the previous post about there being another invention like this. It seems a peculiar this to say given that I havn't given any indication as to the way this thing works.

Anyway I find all of this really discouraging. When you read the net, you often hear people say "hundreds of inventors have invented this technology" etc and yet, there is not a single straight forward detailed video demonstration to be found explaining how any of the devices work.

Whats the story? Am I the worst searcher on the internet or what?

[e2matrix]

If this device can only really be used in a large scale situation that may be a big plus for your friend.  It's not going to replace car engines although if it drives down the cost of electricity it could make electric vehicles a bit more appealing.  Being a large scale device it sounds like it would be most advantageous to power companies and large scale industrial sites.  That makes it a lot less threatening as a free energy device.  One of the ways he could make money would be to sell detailed plans to such entities however unless he has a working prototype it will be a hard sell.  Many brilliant people on energy forums think they have the way to create free energy all worked out in their head.  Then they try building it only to find a tiny glitch in the plan makes it unworkable.   There is an existing device that has been shown which is claimed to generate power by moving water using opposing forces of gravity and bouyancy.  If I could recall the web site I'd link it here but it sounds like it may involve a similar principle to your friends idea.  There is discussion on this site somewhere about it.  That unit is small enough to be used on an individual home.  I'm not sure where that is at now but I certainly don't see them available at Home Depot.  It's a hard call but I don't know how much money your elder friend will be able to spend with his time left and I'll bet the fame, good Karma and probable money he could make just on releasing the info would do him better than a pile of cash so big he'd never have time to spend it all.