Testing the TK Tar Baby

[fuzzytomcat]

Hi guys,

This is getting juicy by the second .... what will it be  COP<0 ..... COP>0 ..... COP>10 ..... COP>100 ..... COP>1,000 ..... COP>10,000 ..... COP>100,000 ..... COP>1,000,000 ..... COP>1,000,000,000 ..... COP>INFINITY ?? 

Golly .... I can't wait !!

FTC

[TinselKoala]

@Mags: Yes,this circuit is sensitive to layout. But not as sensitive to component changes as you might think. The 2n7000 is pretty radical, but there is nearly no difference between the 830 and the PG50 in TarBaby's performance.

If you are trying to tell me that I'm not getting battery charging because I'm not holding my mouth right, or that her mosfets are numbered 1,2,3,4,5 and mine are numbered 4,3,2,1 and 5...... I don't buy it. One learns about a system by perturbing it and watching the result. You change some values or layout in an FM radio and it might not pick up the same station at the same knob settings, but it will still be something like an FM radio in its behaviour.

Now, every circuit Ainslie throws together produces overunity heating and battery charging--- EVEN THE MISTAKES..... but when I build the exact same circuit along with _many variations thereof_ I detect no OU behaviour, and yet I generate the same data. And when even Ainslie's own data is properly analyzed, her OU behaviour either vanishes entirely or turns out not to be so OU at all.

So are you still trying to figure out some feature of the 2n7000 circuit that wasn't close enough to Ainslie's kludges for you to see the point, or are you going to try to tell me that my PRESENT circuit here isn't working because.... because..... because my osc frequency doesn't match hers and my total wire length isn't the same as hers?

OK, I would accept that if we were building ham transmitters or something like that, especially if the design we were copying ACTUALLY WORKED.

But there is no evidence that it actually does, and we are uncovering more and more evidence all the time that it DOESN'T work.

So any alterations to the original circuit could alter the outcome also. Yes? (http://www.overunity.com/../../../../../../Smileys/default/wink.gif)

You mean like putting in 4 mosfets backwards for your demo, and finding that you _still_ get the crazy numbers from your spreadsheet? NO. As long as you are putting garbage in to your calculations, you are still going to get garbage out, no matter whether the garbage is GREEN or blue.


Did you miss these two pix?
They are the "smoking gun", the "BUSTED" pictures that show, from their own video demonstration, that they are NOT using a strict negative pulse when they are generating their large heat. They are using a POSITIVE OFFSET that turns on the Q1 mosfet during the NON_oscillating phase of the pulsing, and they have tried to hide this fact "in plain sight" by removing the Drain trace from the display on the Tek and displaying the gate trace the way they do, hiding the fact that it is a positive going pulse by putting the trace entirely at or below center screen.

[TinselKoala]

Mags said,

So now, being that you say that adding more inductors changes the freq of the oscillations, can we say that we could have oscillations without the inductor, but adding it in just alters the freq?  or....

The oscillations are feedback parasitic oscillations caused by stray inductances (wire lengths, placement near other wires) and capacitances (wire lengths and placement, component characteristics). Change any inductance or capacitance in the circuit... like by moving wires or even just waving hands around... and the behaviour/performance changes.

It is impossible to build real circuitry without inductances. "I say" that adding more inductors changes the frequency of the oscs. But in contrast to "Rosemary says", what "I say" is often backed up with facts, references and demonstrations. "I say" that adding inductance changes the frequency, and I can demonstrate that it does, if you don't believe me.

Certainly one "can" have oscillations without added extra inductance as the circuit stands. I've demonstrated this over and over. One "can" also eliminate the oscillations by reducing the stray wire inductance and laying the physical circuit out differently. The NERD RATs magic "oscillations" depend on their cliplead kludgy layout which no rational circuit builder would use.

So we appear to have hit upon another requirement or characteristic of Free Energy devices: their layout must be crazy, because if they are laid out rationally, the magic noise that causes the numbers to indicate Overunity performance..... goes away.

[TinselKoala]

Look... maybe it is only one special batch of mosfets from International Rectifier Corp that have the secret characteristic that causes them to make free energy. A production run was contaminated by Bismuth and Magnesium and they had to stop the assembly line and purge the day's output. But a small batch somehow got through Quality Assurance testing and made it out into the wild. The NERD RATS just happened to get the entire stock of these special mosfets, and no other IRFPG50 that you might get from a vendor will be from this special batch. So no matter HOW they assemble a circuit, it will be overunity when they analyse the spreadsheet numbers.

But the rest of us are screwed from the outset because our PG50s are not from that one special batch.


It's like what makes the difference between an extremely valuable stamp and one that's just pretty paper. If you don't have that tiny little misprint or off-color marking, you are simply out of luck.

(See the logical fallacy called "Special Pleading" for more information.)

[TinselKoala]

Hey Fuzzy
I wonder what Mr. Donovan Martin would have to say about Tar Baby.