Testing the TK Tar Baby

[MileHigh]

Rosemary:

Guys, TK has published the names and telephone numbers of a list of players associated with our early COP>17 accreditation and even on our earlier circuit before we built the COP>17 apparatus.  Here's the the thing. There are at least 3 and possibly 4 of those players still in the active business - one of them being the technical director of a public company. I am entirely satisfied that I have NEVER made their names public.  Nor will I.  I must, however and sadly, report to them that TK - a member of this forum - has not only put their names on public view but that he as also included their telephone numbers.

He could ONLY have got this information from Harvey Gramm or from rifling my computer - if not directly - then indirectly.  His culpability is in making that list public.  I am now obliged to report this to them which I will do on Monday.  Meanwhile, for the record - I am entirely satisfied that they will NOT tolerate having their names bandied around on a thread - and in public - and CERTAINLY not on a thread of this disgusting standard.  It not only has rather unfortunate racist implications - but the standard of posting is considerably less than legally or morally acceptable.  I disclaim ANY RESPONSIBILITY in making their identities public and INDEED have resisted any mention of them.

Regards,
Rosemary 

Well, that makes you a hypocrite then because you have threatened to reveal TK and PW's identity several times and I think you may have made the same threat towards me.  Also, just recently you have been dropping hints on your new blog that you might reveal TK's identity.

I don't condone any revealing of identities and there is at least one individual on this forum that I would speculate is borderline unstable.  That's in reference to my earlier remarks about this issue.

MileHigh

[picowatt]

TK,

Posting names and phone numbers as you did crossed a line and should not be condoned by anyone.

PW

[TinselKoala]

TK,

Posting names and phone numbers as you did crossed a line and should not be condoned by anyone.

PW

I am only repeating information that AINSLIE HERSELF RELEASED INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. Remember how she always says that there are these CONTACTABLE persons and organizations that have vetted her claims? But somehow she always...lately... forgets to give the CONTACT INFORMATION.

These names and phone numbers have been available to ANYONE WHO LOOKS FOR THEM, they were posted by AINSLIE HERSELF in 2007. She refers to them all the time, as you can see from reading her posts.

Most of them were made up by her anyway, or the numbers are bad.

SHE HERSELF GAVE OUT THESE NAMES AND NUMBERS WITH THE EXPRESS PERMISSION AND EVEN DIRECTION TO HAVE THEM CONTACTED. SHE IS LYING AGAIN when she says that ONLY Harvey had them. Just like the scopeshots that I have collected, each and every one of those names and phone numbers has been put into the public domain in the specific context of discussing AINSLIE's COP>17 claim.
EVERY ONE OF THEM has been made public before, BY AINSLIE HERSELF, with the URGING that they be contacted, and when the lawyers come calling, I WILL PROVE IT TO THEM, because I have the documentation right here in front of me.

And MH is right.... Ainslie has been trying to discover MY personal information for quite some time now, and has threatened me several times. In fact, since her pet troll Wilby has some information, I am surprised that she has revealed so LITTLE of what she (thinks) she knows.

Sorry to shout... but after all, PW, you did come in rather late to this affair. I have a two page document from Ainslie citing these names and numbers and giving express permission to contact them, and she REPEATEDLY, even so late as YESTERDAY, said that these people are CONTACTABLE -- but of course she omitted the contact information, as she always has SINCE 2007.

So... if you think that reposting information that AINSLIE herself has posted, is somehow unconscionable... well, sorry, I disagree.

[TinselKoala]

My dear Little TK

WHY would I lie about this?  I just DON'T  GET IT?  I'm not trying to con anyone out of their money.  So WHY?  And what about my colleagues - those collaborators - all us free energy nuts?  IF I was lying then they'd know all about it.  Surely?  They visit me.  They know the house.  They know when the apparatus is here.  And they CERTAINLY see when it's not?  Do I HIDE IT?  Somewhere?  So that they just THINK that I've sent it.  And then?  What about the free circulation of our emails that I copy them?  Even to members of this forum?  I wouldn't know HOW to fabricate that.  All those contactable numbers - those referenced names? 

AGAIN.  WHY WOULD I LIE?  I am simply reporting on the good news that our apparatus is now getting the attention that it so richly deserves.  It's good news for most of us.  It's just you and your colleagues here who are rather distressed at these new developments. Quite honestly you attribute me with considerably more inventiveness than I'm capable of - I assure you. 

Rosie Pose

And by the way - the reason they gave me for needing that equipment is that they need to evaluate a claim against a demonstration BEFORE they invest.  They're in America.  It's cheaper to get that demonstration to them than to get 3 scientists to Africa to a demonstration.  Surely that's not difficult to wrap your mind around?  To me it seems like a reasonable proposal and  it certainly has financial merit.
R

And another little addendum.  They're well aware of your thread.  They think it's despicable.  NOT ONLY THAT - but they could see that your arguments against this are SPURIOUS.  You can't claim a measured COP infinity and then PRETEND THAT IT MEANS NOTHING.  UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE A FOOL.  OR.  UNLESS YOU THINK THAT EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM IS A FOOL.

And here's a download of the apparatus just unpacked - that they sent me...

All those contactable numbers - those referenced names? 

I have listed what Ainslie has been omitting lately: the contactable numbers and referenced names that she so frequently alludes to but never actually lists.... but she did list them several years ago and I have the list, with the express permission stated in the list that these people ARE CONTACTABLE about her story.

If that's wrong... well, you've got some very selective blinders, that's all I can say.

Why, after saying YESTERDAY that "all those contactable numbers and all those referenced names" are there... does she NOW resist any suggestion that they actually be contacted?

Well  for one reason, many of them do not appear to exist.

A "Tarnow" in North Carolina. A "Tarnowski" in South Africa. Yeah, right. 

[TinselKoala]

TK,

Posting names and phone numbers as you did crossed a line and should not be condoned by anyone.

PW

She lies when she says that she herself did not make them public. I am only reposting information that she herself posted ON THE INTERNET. The link to the original post has been EDITED AWAY by her, as she so often has done in the past. Nevertheless, I have the original documents and references.
If she is constantly going to REFER to these contacts, and even say that they are CONTACTABLE... well, then shouldn't the contact info be public? Well, it is, and SHE HERSELF made it so. Perhaps now... she has thought better of HER DECISION TO RELEASE THOSE NAMES AND NUMBERS.
Well, sorry, the internet never forgets.

Do you all really think that I have some secret source of information about AINSLIE? Do you really share her paranoid fantasies?

Come on, get real. SHE POSTED THAT STUFF HERSELF, all of it, with the urging to have people looking into her claims CONTACT THEM and ask about her. I think AINSLIE believed that nobody would actually do it, so some of the names, like Tarnow-Tarnowski, are probably just made up, or garbled by her as she often does. Ditto the phone numbers, which I have reproduced just as she posted them (but I included some blanks to make them easier to read).