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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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picowatt

Her limited understanding of basic electricity, let alone electronics, and the amount of energy contained in a bank of lead acid batteries, combined with her poor eyesight, is a recipe for disaster.

Those images of melted battery terminal clamps should have been a wake-up call as to what all those batteries are capable of doing.  Personal injury and/or burning down a house are very real possibilities.     

I highly recommend that she find someone qualified in the field of electronics to assist in performing her tests.


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She should also talk to her insurance company as well.  They would likely frown on her just having lead acid batteries on the property, let alone if they saw the images of the melted terminal clamps.  They would likely require a rider or policy upgrade if they are willing to underwrite at all.   




picowatt

Is it not possible to use smaller sealed lead acid batteries batteries for these tests?

Personally I would not allow any vented or liquid electrolyte lead acid battery anywhere near my test equipment without being in a proper enclosure with venting to the outside. Not for any length of time at least.  A proper battery box would be able to contain acid, used clamped terminal connections, be fused and actively vented.

I cannot imagine why smaller 4.5-8 amp hour sealed gel-cell batteries could not be used.  They would be much safer, can be placed very compactly right next to the circuit and would require less wire length to connect and interconnect.

The smaller amp hour rating would also reduce test duration times.



 

TinselKoala

Smaller batteries?

You mean like Tar Baby's 12 V, 5 A-H SLAs?

The ones I keep terminal protectors on when they aren't being used?
The ones where I use a 10 A inline fuse in the Tar Baby circuit?


Of course she won't use small batteries like those. They drop in voltage too fast for her to carry on her charade. And Tar Baby has proven that these small batteries just don't have what it takes..... they do discharge, so there must be something wrong with them.

Remember: a firm operating principle of the NERDS is Never to do any kind of testing that has the potential to falsify the holy Thesis.

But her thesis and her claims have already been falsified by her own data.... you can watch her battery voltage dropping in the several series of scopeshots she posted.

I think that if she included a package of all her scopeshots along with the daft manuscripts in one place.... people would be able to inspect the data, and they would conclude, correctly, that the whole affair is a delusion, since the data don't support the claims.


Have you checked out the "publication" of the second paper on Rossi's JNP lately?  Take a quick look at the Comments.

TinselKoala

Well.... there you have it.

Ainslie won't even take the advice that .99 is giving her. Her "EXPERTS" have sold her on spending 150 ZAR (about $ 18.50 US)  for a 800 microFarad, 250 V electrolytic cap.

Which of course will be even more dangerous for her than one of the batteries, when it's fully charged. AND... it will require slow charging through a current limiting resistor when it's first hooked up.

AND.... .99's recommended 10uF, poly film caps would cost about two or three or four dollars US depending on quality and voltage rating, and would be perfectly safe to charge and handle even when charged.

Here is a very high quality cap that meets everybody's spec (except YKW and her "experts") and could be in her hands by Thursday without her even needing to leave her walled compound. Sure... it's expensive.... almost 39 ZAR.

http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?mpart=B32674D3106K&vendor=495

TinselKoala

"Higher Farad number to handle the current flow".... what a bunch of misguided BS. Her "experts" told her that? She's talking to SALESMEN who only understand price, not performance, and who will sell her the most expensive product they can, without regard to its actual usage.


In my wireless transmitter prototype , the stack of 6, 10 nF poly film caps in parallel.... for a total of 60 nanoFarads, or 0.06 microFarads..... around 1/200 of .99's recommended 10 microFarads.... are handling upwards of 45 AMPS at 60-80 V,  500-1000 kHz. In other words, FAR FAR more POWER than Ainslie's little blocking cap will ever be called on to handle in her device.

The electrolytic cap she will be wasting her money on probably won't even work for the intended purpose... which of course is just what Ainslie wants.