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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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picowatt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 04, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Your problem with that battery operated switch - TinselKoala - is that REFUSE to use a small rechargeable battery.  If you DID you'd see that there's energy going back to that battery.  Don't give me the 'proof' because the battery discharges - thing.  Of COURSE it'll discharge.  It's used PRECISELY to obviate any advantage in returning energy.  That's part of your SPIN cycle.

Rosie Pose

Prove it!

powercat

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 02, 2012, 06:27:16 PM
Hi Rosemary,

I think it is better to make some new experiment, than to rant here all the time.

Just do the experiments and prove TK wrong if you can do this with your setup...

And show it in videos as he is showing it.

I got again some complains of some users that you only rant here and don´t do the required
experiments.


Regards, Stefan

Ranting Rosemary cant stop ranting on and on and on,  and nothing will ever change, she can't admit she's wrong
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

poynt99

Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 11:10:53 AM

Approximately 200ma.  We did the math, TK made the empirical measurement.
I did the measurement in the simulation as well....and it confirms the 200mA area.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
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TinselKoala

Ainslie's 4 amps current is happening when she is using a bipolar pulse and doesn't realize it and is turning the Q1 mosfet ON with the positive portion of the pulse , and having oscillations when Q1 is OFF due to the negative offset. This is a result of the offset usage of the function generator and her lack of understanding of it.

We are here discussing, and have for a long time been discussing, the strictly NEGATIVE stimulation that provides the low-heat mode and small current flows. At least everybody except Ainslie is discussing that mode-- SINCE THAT IS WHAT THE TEST REQUIRES.

These two distinctly different modes of operation are shown in Ainslie's scope shots below. And they would show even more distinctly if the COMMON MOSFET DRAIN signal were shown.


TinselKoala

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 04, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Your problem with that battery operated switch - TinselKoala - is that REFUSE to use a small rechargeable battery. 
That's another lie. When did I ever REFUSE to use such a battery? If I had one handy I'd gladly use it.
How about this: what if I use a large rechargable CAPACITOR instead of a battery for the bias supply? Oh.... there's that dreaded "C" word. Inductors are merely mysterious but CAPACITORS.... scare Ainslie to death.
QuoteIf you DID you'd see that there's energy going back to that battery.  Don't give me the 'proof' because the battery discharges - thing.  Of COURSE it'll discharge.  It's used PRECISELY to obviate any advantage in returning energy.  That's part of your SPIN cycle.

Rosie Pose

There's energy going back, even to the bias battery.. but of course it discharges... but a function generator in its place wouldn't provide any power... but a rechargeable battery would stay charged..... and I refuse to use one because of SPIN??? When if I DID.... I would have a FREE ENERGY machine on my workbench?

Yeah... right. That makes perfect sense... to an oyster, maybe.

GET OUT YOUR EQUIPMENT AND PROVE YOUR CONTENTIONS by showing your circuit doing something different than mine under the same conditions.