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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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MileHigh

MIB Alert!  MIB Alert!

Paid disinformation agents are actively manipulating us!

From that "Discredit" blog:

QuoteOk Poynty.  Would this test prove your proposal that there's a current flow through the function generator's terminal and probe at Q2?

We disconnect Q1 source leg from the circuit.  We then attach the function generator terminal to the gate of Q2 with its probe placed at the battery supply source or negative rail.  Therefore in series we'd have the  FG terminal at the Gate of Q2 >to the  FG probe >to the battery source rail or negative rail >to the  0.25Ohm shunt >to the negative terminal of the battery supply.  We then apply a positive signal at the gate of Q2.  Bear in mind that under this 'schematic' the source leg of Q2 would be DISCONNECTED. 

IF there is clear evidence of a continual >zero current flow -  measured across the shunt - then there is unequivocal proof that the current from the battery supply and/or the function generator - can flow through the terminal and probes of the function generator as a DC current and that the probes and terminals effectively maintain a series path to enable this flow.

Does not compute!  The only explanation is a covert campaign to discredit all free energy research and the queen of the hive must be Rosie herself!

Psyops alert!  Psyops alert!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M77HfZu24bw

picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 13, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Well, I don't know about that.... let's just say "usually", and my record with Ainslie is almost like deja vu all over again, because .... I have been here before.  :P

But.... the first paragraph describing the proposed connection seems, if I am decoding the Ainslie-ese properly, to simply place the CVR directly across the output of the FG, with the sources of both transistors removed from their connections to the negative rail completely. Assuming the "source of Q1" is disconnected on the transistor side of the junction with the Q2 gate and the FG's "terminal" and CVR.
I think I would be pretty surprised if any oscillations would occur under those circumstances, and of course the CVR will show the current, in both directions through the essentially shorted circuit of the 0.25R across the FG, being sourced by the FG, I should think.
I am having a hard time picturing what she is talking about though, since she refuses to pick up a pencil and draw what she means. Although considering what we've seen in that area before... maybe it's best that she doesn't.

I'll have to try it on Tar Baby, as soon as she is returned from Georgia. I sure hope she hasn't been captured by the extremist FEF Brigade (Free Energy Fanatics).

TK,

With the source terminal of both Q1 and Q2 disconnected, not much is going to happen at all.  Seems she wants to connect the FG signal common to the gate of Q2 and connect the FG output to the battery negative via the CSR.  If you read the involved sentence, it is written in the most confusing of ways.  First she says the FG out is connected to the batt neg, and then she says to the CSR.  She aso states that the source terminal of Q2 is to remain disconnected.

In any event, it will only prove what we all know, once a gate is charged or discharged, no current flows to or from that gate (other than leakage current). 

If she actually understood how Q2 is turned on in her circuit, or a bit more about electronics in general, she would not have proposed this as a test of anything.

It is quite easy to prove current is flowing thru Q2. thru the FG and to the battery negative via the CSR in her circuit.  One only needs to look at the captures she herself has provided and observe the voltage drop across Rgen due to current flowing thru the FG.

PW

picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 13, 2012, 07:40:06 PM
PW said,
Well... I'll try another one.

The lab confirmed that the numbers she got were the numbers she got. (Just like .99 and me and probably you too by now).

They also subbed in a noninductive CVR and filtered the battery and got some real numbers... just like .99 and me and probably you by now.

So now they are sending some noninductive shpeshul reshsisshtorsh and some instructions on proper testing back to Ainslie so SHE can replicate THEIR results and disabuse herself of the notion that she is all that.

And of course... when she DOES see what they've done and suggested, these good Boffins, to a man, will suddenly become ignorant idiots too blind to see what is laid before them as the salvation of Mankind, and that's the last we will hear of their suggested tests and their noninductive CVR. But Ainslie will use their "confirmation" of the numbers she got as an ENDORSEMENT, but of course she will still never mention the actual lab's name or any contact information so that her claims can be checked. And you can be sure that every body is NDA'd up to their armpit hairs, too.

I wonder if any of them are named Tarnow, or perhaps Tarnowski.

TK,

Wow, you sure got a lot more out of tha non-existent lab report than I did!

I merely concluded that either there was no such report, or that it did not reflect well in her favor.

Surely if the report confirmed her assertions she would have held it up for all the world to see.

PW

picowatt

Quote from: MileHigh on July 13, 2012, 07:40:31 PM
MIB Alert!  MIB Alert!

Paid disinformation agents are actively manipulating us!

From that "Discredit" blog:

Does not compute!  The only explanation is a covert campaign to discredit all free energy research and the queen of the hive must be Rosie herself!

Psyops alert!  Psyops alert!


MH,

Quite the proposed test isn't it?

I thought the whole post moreso qualified as a failed midterm...

Ya' just gotta' grin a bit...

PW

TinselKoala

I have got to say.... here in South Texas, the lower East side of San Antonio, the city whose patron is the Saint of Lost Souls... we have a word for people who behave in a certain way.

For example, when gmeast first says "the 555 timer doesn't work, has anyone built it".... when I've shown exactly what it does and how it works.... and for her not to inform him immediately.... and then for him to come back and say he's "gotten THE 555 timer circuit to work properly".... by changing components and so on.... and doesn't acknowledge what I have been saying about the ORIGINAL timer circuit for three years now... and then pretends that that is still THE circuit that was used for the Quantum experiment, or that his work with his new circuit will be relevant to the claims made in Ainslie's Quantum article ....

Well, here on the lower East side of San Antonio de Padua de Bexar, we have a word... or two... for that kind of behavior.