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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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profitis

@sarkeizen i made a claim that a O2 concentration cell will power your calculator for 30 years(somebody is going to break it,pet dog,kids,angry neibor etc) and that it works on exactly the same principal as quenco(an electron concentration cell). i did not make a claim that either quenco or hammerstein is a 2lot violation,however when i was asked by you if it is a 2lot violation(after being suckered into your courtroom)i gave an answer in the affirmative.i gave an answer,i did not claim.big big difference.then i ran from your courtroom narrowly escaping a guilty verdict and savage knifewounds barely one minute into the trial before the jury had even arrived.now you want me to come back into YOUR courtroom to face more of your crap instead of just building the thing and testing it?disgusting. yes the textbook will tell you how to build a quenco-hammerstein cell that will absolutely work.it will not tell you how to violate 2lot,are we clear now?forget about what philip said.a quenco wont violate 2lot but it will power your ipod for 97 years(lifespan of the transistor on-switch in the ipod circuit).guaranteed.

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on October 02, 2013, 01:58:34 PM
@sarkeizen i made a claim that a O2 concentration cell will power your calculator for 30 years
Nope.  You said: "power ipods permanently.in fact its imposible to drain their power or even weaken their power unless you break them up."  At no point did you say that this claim was invalid.  If it is, stand up and say so.

Permanently.  Impossible.  Those are pretty strong claims.
Are you saying that such a claim, when true in an isothermal environment does not NECESSTATE a 2LOT violation?  If they do.  How is that different than claiming this device violates 2LOT.
Quoteworks on exactly the same principal as quenco(an electron concentration cell).
The only claim you can make is that it works on exactly the same principle as the PROPOSED quenco.  Nobody has quencos.   The proposal is that it works by converting environmental heat into electricity.  Does your device not work by absorbing heat?

Quotei did not make a claim that either quenco or hammerstein is a 2lot violation
Ok you claimed that it works on the EXACT principle as quenco claims to.  Quenco CLAIMS to absorb heat and turn it into electricity even in an isothermal environment.  Does your thing not do that?

Quotei gave an answer,i did not claim.big big difference.
ROFL.  Man are you squirming. So now you want to attempt a special definition of "claim".  Which means something much, much, much less than "states as true".
This forces me to ask again.  Are you stupid?

Quotethen i ran from your courtroom narrowly escaping a guilty verdict and savage knifewounds barely one minute into the trial before the jury had even arrived.
You fantasies are pretty vivid.  I wonder what they're like when you're sober.

Quotenow you want me to come back into YOUR courtroom
If there is a courtroom it's in YOUR HEAD.  Perhaps brought on because you refuse to either backdown from claims you clearly made (like powering something forever in an isothermal environment) OR provide the location of where these claims can be validated in a textbook  Which YOU SAID was where I could find validation.

Quoteto face more of your crap instead of just building the thing and testing it?disgusting.
Dude, you made a few claims.  Including one about 2LOT violation - even though you are trying like freaking crazy - to the point of *redefining* the word "claim".  To avoid...heck I don't know what you are trying to avoid there perhaps you need to have a talk with someone or something.

Other claims were that in some textbook somewhere there is information that validates some device which will power something like an iPod FOREVER.  I'd simply like to know which textbook and where in it.  This again amongst humans is a pretty reasonable question.   Why don't you answer it?  Really.  Why?

Quoteyes the textbook will tell you how to build a quenco-hammerstein cell that will absolutely work.
You said that the RULES in the textbook state that it will power something like an iPod FOREVER.  I'd like to see those rules.  Can you point me to a specific textbook and a specific place in it?  Why not?

Quoteforget about what philip said.a quenco wont violate 2lot but it will power your ipod for 97 years(lifespan of the transistor on-switch in the ipod circuit).guaranteed.
Sorry the guarantee from someone who stresses "these rules in a textbook show that you can construct something that will run something like an iPod FOREVER" but when asked "which textbook specifically?" spends every waking moment avoiding the question isn't worth very much.

Seriously dude.  I'm asking you to answer ONE question which was posed - AT YOUR BEHEST (you said to focus on the textbooks).  How is it that you are singularly useless at answering it?

profitis

@sarkeizen i already told you dude.why must i repeat myself? reach for a standard chem textbook,go to section titled concentration cells,use it to help you build a O2 concentration cell,test it on your calculator for permanent number of years.what part of this process dont you a)understand b)get.. You said the word permanent implies a 2lot disgrace and so?what are you waiting for?must i now sing?jump up n down?pay you?..?

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on October 02, 2013, 03:59:29 PM
@sarkeizen i already told you dude
Wrong as usual...

Yous said:
Quote.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells'
See, you said this.  I am asking WHERE it is WRITTEN AND PREDICTED.  Your words.  Not mine.  Either admit you lied and this is not written and predicted or tell me where it is written and predicted or admit you don't know where it is written and predicted.

You have not told me where, precisely this cell that will power something forever in an isothermal environment is written and predicted.   You said these things now man up.

Quotewhy must i repeat myself? reach for a standard chem textbook,go to section titled concentration cells,use it to help you build a O2 concentration cell
You probably have to repeat yourself because you're consistently not answering giving me the information you said you had (or at least implied you had).  Notice in this quote nothing whatsoever was mentioned about building anything.  You just made that up after to avoid answering the question.

Quotetest it on your calculator for permanent number of years.what part of this process dont you
The fact that it has nothing to do with the question I asked about the information you said was "written and predicted".  Why say "written and predicted" if you can't tell me where the powers-an-ipod-forever-battery-is "written and predicted".

Again, your words.  You said this.  Why are you being so evasive about showing me something you claimed you could answer.

Also unless you're a moron, you would realize that your test wouldn't demonstrate a 2LOT violation.

QuoteYou said the word permanent implies a 2lot disgrace and so?what are you waiting for?must i now sing?jump up n down?pay you?..?
I want you to answer the question that you implied you could answer, or admit you didn't really know what you were talking about or that you lied.

On the upside I'm sure I'll be a "hero member" in no time since Profitis will probably keep dancing and squirming for weeks.

profitis

@sarkeizen..written E= RTIn C1/C2.predicted E= RTIn c1O2/c2O2. Here is your formulae for a very well predicted O2 hammerstein cell voltage.now lets check up duration uhhm uhh whats that formula for capacity again W=V x I,,,x time..V=0.3 (hammerstein volts) x 1000micro-amp x time,uhm time? Time?holy shit its permanent! the friggen fuel to the anode is replenished by the cathode,mama mia.