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[broli]

It seems like you're jumping into mass production much earlier than previously expected, is this the case or am I misunderstanding your latest status update? I'm also glad you attracted the right people to get this done as correctly and as fast as possible.

[e2matrix]

Philip,  I'm glad to hear your update and that's great news.  I was getting ready to contact you through your site as I was getting a bit worried since you hadn't posted in a while. 

broli,  I am just guessing here but I think he may be saying things will be ready in August for a public release (and maybe video?) and that all issues that need to be resolved to put it into mass production will be ironed out so to speak.  I don't think it will actually be in mass production by then.  And I will assume this is for the mass production of the core element rather than a finished power product.  All just my guesses but I would be very surprised if a ready to use power product could be done by August.   I'd love it if there was but I don't expect it to happen that fast. 

[lumen]

This is very good news! As more people get involved, the process to market will move faster.

Sounds like they are dialing in the fabrication process and maybe by August they will have it working well and possibly a few samples could become available for some applications people to work with.

Though the first product would likely be of very low voltage (100mv or so) some tricky design concepts could still yield a few unique products.

[catbauer24]

Philip - I hope everything goes well for pilot production!

Question on the tech - is the cooling effect only present with electrical current draw from the device?  It would make sense, as the current would essentially replace the heatflow of a heat engine.

In regards to the second law of thermodynamics - stating that heat must always flow from hot "high-pressure" to cold "low-pressure" ignores the fact that theoretically, energy can be transformed into another form with 100% efficiency.  In fact it ALWAYS is, though we say something is inefficient when we transform something into multiple forms of energy, all at 100% efficiency (conservation of energy) instead of just one form.  I'd say, assuming the device does work as advertised, it could be close to 100% 'efficient' converting heat energy to electric energy, though I would go to say physical limitations probably mean there is at least a very small loss into another form of energy - maybe some form of sound or radiation emitted not being converted to electricity.

Also I've thought about heatpumps (as many have I'm sure)... for a cop of 6, if that extra 5 units of heat out could be converted to electricity with 20% or greater efficiency, that creates a 'perpetual' motion machine of the second kind if I'm not mistaken.  In a closed system I suppose that would break the second law as it could reduce entropy if introduced to a system with 100% entropy, but factoring in 'electrodynamics' as well instead of purely thermodynamics.

Basically if all atoms have high kinetic energy (say 1000C) in a closed system, entropy is '100%' and no work can be done!?! To say no heat 'flow' by itself may be true, but does it say that energy can't be converted to another form?  In that sense the other form can be utilized to create a temperature differential and truly break the 2nd law of thermodynamics I suppose.  However even in 'heat death', there is plenty of energy, and at the universe scale at least, gravity can still do work and create temperature differentials by itself (possibly some type of compression / expansion gravity heat-pump so to say).  The law of thermodynamics is a 'wrong model' but useful, as George Box would agree.

I did a search on overunity and appears 'thermotunnel cooling' doesn't have any results:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermotunnel_cooling

[lancaIV]

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Sincerely
                 CdL